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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 13
      Replying to @MasterGuns8654

      Admittedly thus far Trump has just incited smaller terrorist attacks in multiple countries (only giving him partial credit for Charlottesville). But he's just getting started.

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    2. Master Guns  🇺🇸‏ @MasterGuns8654 May 13
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Agree, any political violence here at home should be immediately condemned, or it allows ppl to imagine there’s tacit support. al-Sadr is different though, violence is a tool and always within his calculus if he feels inciting it is warranted. We don’t live in that environment.

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    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 13
      Replying to @MasterGuns8654

      We don't? Then why won't Trump condemn those who conduct violence in support of him? Again, i think you need to read up on this Trump fellow.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Master Guns  🇺🇸‏ @MasterGuns8654 May 13
      Replying to @emptywheel

      No, we don’t. You can freely criticize him here, within reason, and no one will knock your door down and make you disappear for it.

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 13
      Replying to @MasterGuns8654

      You've moved your goalposts. It WAS whether someone uses violence as a tool. Of COURSE Trump does. To suggest he doesn't is naive at best.

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. Master Guns  🇺🇸‏ @MasterGuns8654 May 13
      Replying to @emptywheel

      I’m not lecturing, this is Twitter.

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    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 13
      Replying to @MasterGuns8654

      emptywheel Retweeted Master Guns  🇺🇸

      Fine. Then retract this tweet lecturing me about what I should do. *Especially* since you've proven unaware of how Trump wields violence himself.https://twitter.com/MasterGuns8654/status/995838623751852032 …

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      Master Guns  🇺🇸 @MasterGuns8654
      Replying to @emptywheel
      You should look into who al-Sadr is if you’re comparing him to Trump.
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    8. Master Guns  🇺🇸‏ @MasterGuns8654 May 13
      Replying to @emptywheel

      A compromise—l’ll look into Trump more closely, and you study up on al-Sadr. Talk soon.

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 13
      Replying to @MasterGuns8654

      I have not exhibited ignorance about Sadr. You, on the other hand, are apologizing for Trump's violence. So, no deal.

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    10. Master Guns  🇺🇸‏ @MasterGuns8654 May 13
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Hmm. You’ll have to show me where I did that.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 13
      Replying to @MasterGuns8654

      The two first tweets of this thread among others. Or perhaps you weren't apologizing as much as betraying ignorance. I'm agnostic which it is. Again, fix the stuff you can affect here before lecturing Iraqis.

      7:13 PM - 13 May 2018
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        1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 13
          Replying to @emptywheel @MasterGuns8654

          Anyway, this has been pleasant. I'm headed to bed. I repeat again: you'd do far more for this world trying to fix the violence Trump incites here than lecturing Iraqis.

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        2. Master Guns  🇺🇸‏ @MasterGuns8654 May 13
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Lecturing the Iraqis? I’m not doing that. Actually if al-Sadr moves them away from Iran’s sphere of influence, it’s a net gain. Trust me, I KNOW I can’t lecture Iraqis.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 13
          Replying to @MasterGuns8654

          OK. Fine. Then please stop lecturing me. America has violence to stop--abroad for decades--and at home, increasingly incited as a tool of power by Trump. If you care about populist violence please work to change the latter.

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        4. Master Guns  🇺🇸‏ @MasterGuns8654 May 13
          Replying to @emptywheel

          You’re giving him too much credit. In the next breath he’s incompetent. You’re the one moving the goal posts.

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 13
          Replying to @MasterGuns8654

          He is incompetent at governance. He's an expert at sowing fears and hatreds. Those are different skills.

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        6. Master Guns  🇺🇸‏ @MasterGuns8654 May 13
          Replying to @emptywheel

          I thought you were going to bed.

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