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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Ken Dilanian‏Verified account @KenDilanianNBC May 11

      Friday night deep dive: Are Democrats about to lose the national battle over torture? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/democrats-rights-advocates-are-close-losing-battle-over-torture-n873551 … via @nbcnews

      26 replies 54 retweets 67 likes
    2. John Sipher‏Verified account @john_sipher May 11
      Replying to @KenDilanianNBC @NBCNews

      I'd like someone to write about the Congress reckoning with torture. President Bush, CIA Directors and the Bush Justice Department all acknowledged their roles. The Congress pretends they are pure. That it was a simple decision and they always came down on the right side.

      16 replies 29 retweets 167 likes
    3. Ken Dilanian‏Verified account @KenDilanianNBC May 11
      Replying to @john_sipher @NBCNews

      For better or worse, they argue they were misled in briefings. So does the Senate report. People like Mudd, who say they were briefed, ought to provide proof.

      2 replies 8 retweets 32 likes
    4. John Sipher‏Verified account @john_sipher May 12
      Replying to @KenDilanianNBC @NBCNews

      Ask for the memos to be declassified. We break the law if we provide proof.

      2 replies 4 retweets 19 likes
    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 12
      Replying to @john_sipher @KenDilanianNBC @NBCNews

      Actually the memos have been declassified, John. They show that CIA talked Pat Roberts into shutting down the investigation that Bob Graham had started in 2002.

      1 reply 2 retweets 19 likes
    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 12
      Replying to @emptywheel @john_sipher and

      They also document that Michael Hayden had been briefed on things that he went on to lie about to Congress in 2007.

      1 reply 1 retweet 12 likes
    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 12
      Replying to @emptywheel @john_sipher and

      They also show deceptive answers to Jane Harman. Again--these are CIA's own MOUs of the briefings, not Congress'.

      1 reply 2 retweets 11 likes
    8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 12
      Replying to @emptywheel @john_sipher and

      They also show that Rodriguez changed a cable after the first briefing w/Nancy Pelosi. That's pretty crazy, huh?

      2 replies 1 retweet 9 likes
    9. KatherineHawkins‏ @Krhawkins5 May 12
      Replying to @emptywheel @john_sipher and

      Isn’t Mudd the “sell sell sell” guy from the Senate report?

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 12
      Replying to @Krhawkins5 @john_sipher and

      I don't 100% know all the places Mudd appears in the report. Would actually be an interesting project, now that Haspel has assured us using CIA cables as the only source to understand CIA operations is fair.

      10:43 AM - 12 May 2018
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        2. Mark Fallon‏ @glynco May 12
          Replying to @emptywheel @Krhawkins5 and

          http://www.ibtimes.com/cia-deceitful-about-interrogations-newspaper-front-pages-react-torture-report-1747544 …

          1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
        3. KatherineHawkins‏ @Krhawkins5 May 12
          Replying to @glynco @emptywheel and

          I’ll say this for Mudd though: he doesn’t pretend that his title in CTC is a state secret

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 12
          Replying to @Krhawkins5 @glynco and

          No one is calling him to testify. This is all about denying Nashiri due process.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. KatherineHawkins‏ @Krhawkins5 May 12
          Replying to @emptywheel @glynco and

          Well it’s also about getting confirmed, avoiding international legal problems, and general impunity principals I think

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 12
          Replying to @Krhawkins5 @glynco and

          True.

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