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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Nick Weil‏ @nick_weil May 11
      Replying to @emptywheel @ChuckRossDC

      They could have been unmasking George Pap. Most of his contacts were with foreign nationals.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 11
      Replying to @nick_weil @ChuckRossDC

      Oddly, the record doesn't support that.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Nick Weil‏ @nick_weil May 11
      Replying to @emptywheel @ChuckRossDC

      Why do you think Downer reached out to Pap out of the blue? Just curiosity?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 11
      Replying to @nick_weil @ChuckRossDC

      Partly bc he was badmouthing UK govt, as I think has been reported. In any case, correct me if I'm wrong. Is Downer a US citizen? Do you know what

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Nick Weil‏ @nick_weil May 11
      Replying to @emptywheel @ChuckRossDC

      Aussie

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    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 11
      Replying to @nick_weil @ChuckRossDC

      Yes. My point is made. Not FBI.

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    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 11
      Replying to @emptywheel @nick_weil @ChuckRossDC

      The point is that you're all torqued up abt the dossier that you are all LITERALLY arguing that the entire USG should just ignore legit CI threats if that threat used to work on a POTUS campaign. It's batshit crazy.

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    8. Nick Weil‏ @nick_weil May 11
      Replying to @emptywheel @ChuckRossDC

      It's pretty clear at this point that USG thought they were "Legit CI threats" yes. But thats when you do hard nosed investigating a get down to the bottom of it. We're now 2 years removed. No one has proven anything. Show me the money.

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 11
      Replying to @nick_weil @ChuckRossDC

      Last I checked, 3 of the 4 CI threats IDed in the Nunes report had either pled or were under indictment. Page is the one exception (for whom there may be extenuating circumstances). And Stone appears to have numerous witnesses testify about him.

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    10. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 11
      Replying to @emptywheel @nick_weil @ChuckRossDC

      but again, it hasn't been 2 years. FBI very evidently slow-walked Pap until after he was no longer associated with Trump, so it has been 15 months (and only took 6 for an arrest).

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 11
      Replying to @emptywheel @nick_weil @ChuckRossDC

      I mean, you say you want an investigation. There has been one. Virtually all the CI concerns have been pursued (again, Page is exception). Which is proof you all are 100% wrong -- you should be argue FBI should have been far more aggressive.

      11:11 AM - 11 May 2018
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        2. Nick Weil‏ @nick_weil May 11
          Replying to @emptywheel @ChuckRossDC

          ...an investigation which proved that people like George Pap lied. Ok great. Is that all Mueller is going to find? I'm good with that. If that's it good for him and lets call it a day.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 11
          Replying to @nick_weil @ChuckRossDC

          You do realize Pap has been cooperating for 7 months. What do you think he's been up to all that time? Do you know how cooperation agreements work and what someone has to offer up to get one?

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        4. Nick Weil‏ @nick_weil May 11
          Replying to @emptywheel @ChuckRossDC

          Don't you agree that the best strategy would be to prove the big crime happened, then start squeezing cooperation and pleading out to lesser things?

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