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    1. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror May 9

      ǝʌɐp Retweeted John Sipher

      actually, it doesn't fit at all, but hey, keep pushing the bullshit.https://twitter.com/john_sipher/status/994012585589727233 …

      ǝʌɐp added,

      John SipherVerified account @john_sipher
      Given the recent info on Mr. Cohen, Ms. Veselnitskaya and others, I thought I might re-post these two articles on the Steele reports. It all fits pretty nicely. https://www.justsecurity.org/50806/steele-dossier-2018-everyones-favorite-weapon/ … https://www.justsecurity.org/44697/steele-dossier-knowing/ …
      2 replies 2 retweets 1 like
    2.  🌊ʇᴉɯᴉl ɐɯǝɥɔs® 🌊 🤘🏼‏ @TimForgot May 9
      Replying to @empiricalerror

      I'm interested in exactly why you feel this way. Not being sarcastic; asking earnestly. I'm not breathless about the dossier, but it seems to be aging well. Is there a particular assertion that you're thinking is bullshit (aside from the pee stuff)?

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    3. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror May 9
      Replying to @TimForgot

      i've laid all of this out before publicly on my timeline. what exactly is aging well? not a single thing alleged in the dossier has panned out so far. nothing. not. one. thing.

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    4.  🌊ʇᴉɯᴉl ɐɯǝɥɔs® 🌊 🤘🏼‏ @TimForgot May 9
      Replying to @empiricalerror

      An alternative perspective is that none of the allegations has been disproven. And they're positively-stated allegations that presumably can be disproven.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror May 9
      Replying to @TimForgot

      except plenty of the allegations have been sufficiently disproven, despite your protestations to the contrary.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6.  🌊ʇᴉɯᴉl ɐɯǝɥɔs® 🌊 🤘🏼‏ @TimForgot May 9
      Replying to @empiricalerror

      hold on, brother, I'm not protesting. I'm being lazy, at worst. 😁

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    7. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror May 9
      Replying to @TimForgot

      fair enough. but if you want to maintain that the dossier "aged well", please familiarize yourself with what the dossier *actually says* not what everybody wants to believe it says.

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    8.  🌊ʇᴉɯᴉl ɐɯǝɥɔs® 🌊 🤘🏼‏ @TimForgot May 9
      Replying to @empiricalerror

      I'm pretty familiar with it. Got the pdf. It's not the bible or The History of the Pelopponesian War. It's pretty easy to parse.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 9
      Replying to @TimForgot @empiricalerror

      Here's a post on Disinfo and the dossier. https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/01/29/on-disinformation-and-the-dossier/ … On how it may have led Dems to be complacent. https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/11/24/did-the-steele-dossier-lead-the-democrats-to-be-complacent-after-they-got-hacked/ … On those Sipher posts. https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/12/10/three-months-after-problematic-john-sipher-post-just-security-makes-clear-it-let-clear-errors-sit-for-two/ …

      3:10 PM - 9 May 2018
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        2.  🌊ʇᴉɯᴉl ɐɯǝɥɔs® 🌊 🤘🏼‏ @TimForgot May 9
          Replying to @emptywheel @empiricalerror

          Thank you. I'm richer now. Particularly re the insight in the second link. Apologies for my sloth. Your writing is extremely satisfying to read.

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        3.  🌊ʇᴉɯᴉl ɐɯǝɥɔs® 🌊 🤘🏼‏ @TimForgot May 9
          Replying to @TimForgot @emptywheel @empiricalerror

          Do you think the JustSecurity stuff was just ego, or something more cynical than what you've described? Completely ok if you don't want to state.

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        4. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror May 9
          Replying to @TimForgot @emptywheel

          guessing the q was primarily directed at @emptywheel, but i'll give you my take. i don't think sipher ever bothered the actually analyze the dossier, and instead he's going with a virtually useless, unspecific gestalt of "this is broadly consistent with how russian intel works."

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        5.  🌊ʇᴉɯᴉl ɐɯǝɥɔs® 🌊 🤘🏼‏ @TimForgot May 9
          Replying to @empiricalerror @emptywheel

          So, less cynical, decent amount of ego, plus some laziness? IMO, that's less than ideal, but vastly preferable to conspiracy.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6.  🌊ʇᴉɯᴉl ɐɯǝɥɔs® 🌊 🤘🏼‏ @TimForgot May 9
          Replying to @TimForgot @empiricalerror @emptywheel

          To be clear, I'm not making a pronouncement. I don't have nearly enough facts to. That's just a statement of opinion, and (clearly) based on emotion more than anything. I hope we don't need to be more cynical to effectively deal with this mess.

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