emptywheel

Do any of those indictments allege a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russian government to commit wrongdoing re the 2016 election? Didn't think so. The Benghazi "scandal" was as much of a joke as this one is. So was Clinton's emailgate. And Lewinski. And Whitewater.

When they're pleas, they're not allegations. So let's try this slowly. One guilty plea is about hiding from FBI whether and who on the campaign learned Russians were dealing dirt in form of Hillary emails.

One guilty plea is about hiding from FBI that Trump Admin was providing precisely what Russians asked for in June meeting offering dirt: sanctions relief.

Is the guilty plea for conspiring with the Russian government to commit wrongdoing during the 2016 campaign?

Actually during and after. They didn't start paying off the debt to the Russians until after. Yes. It absolutely is. And those two cooperating witnesses have been cooperating for upwards of 6 months.

But where is it alleged or admited that there was a quid pro quo? They've been cooperating for months, yet no one has yet alleged or admitted a quid pro quod. Or point me to it if I am incorrect.

Wait. Before we go there, do you admit that 1) one plea is about the offer 2) there's a public meeting where even Don Jr says dirt was offered in meeting where sanctions discussed 3) other plea is about sanctions?

1. Not an offer to conspire. 2. Meeting was about sanctions, dirt was mentioned, but dirt was about Clinton's dealings in Russia, not hacked emails or troll farms. 3. Plea was about lying to FBI about discussing sanctions after the election.