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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Steve Vladeck‏Verified account @steve_vladeck May 7

      Via @just_security, me on why the #GinaHaspel nomination is (and should be) as much a referendum on the absence of meaningful judicial or political accountability for #torture after September 11 as it is on her specific role in CIA abuses:https://www.justsecurity.org/55830/gina-haspel-accountability-torture-courts/ …

      7 replies 134 retweets 183 likes
    2. John Sipher‏Verified account @john_sipher May 7
      Replying to @steve_vladeck @just_security

      So the senators are gonna make up for the fact that they embraced torture at the time by pretending now that they abhor torture? Makes sense.

      2 replies 2 retweets 16 likes
    3. Steve Vladeck‏Verified account @steve_vladeck May 7
      Replying to @john_sipher @just_security

      I’m still waiting for the example I asked for earlier of Senators who “embraced” torture...

      3 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    4. John Sipher‏Verified account @john_sipher May 7
      Replying to @steve_vladeck @just_security

      I don't want to name names. People were scared. They believed there was a second wave. They knew we had captured some evil people who knew attack plans. CIA didn't volunteer for the program and wasn't trained for it. Nobody in the legislative or effective branch was pushing back.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 7
      Replying to @john_sipher @steve_vladeck @just_security

      Actually Bob Graham was pushing back already in 2002. When he retired and Pat Roberts became Chair the CIA gave him a bunch of reasons to drop the oversight, with which he agreed. And Jane Harman was denied confirmation of Bush's role in Finding for a year.

      6:34 PM - 7 May 2018
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        1. Themistocles' Wall‏ @themistocles_w May 7
          Replying to @emptywheel @john_sipher and

          Good golly We were scared is not a defense We had cowards for Senators is not a defense We did not let SS torturers get away w/these kinds of excuses Why is this so hard for @CIA types to get? Even if all you say re Senators is right, Haspel is not a good choice to lead @CIA

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