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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Brian Ted Jones‏ @briantedjones May 7
      Replying to @trentengland

      What stuff? I mean, you got to game it out. If the government has evidence the president committed a crime, but can’t indict because of a temporary immunity, you’ve got to ask about SOL/tolling/etc.

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    2. Trent England‏ @trentengland May 7
      Replying to @briantedjones

      It's just so far fetched, that kind of collusion story, and the evidence is against it.

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    3. Brian Ted Jones‏ @briantedjones May 7
      Replying to @trentengland

      It's extremely far-fetched, which makes it all the more shocking that there's so much public evidence that the Trump campaign, transition, and administration conspired with Russia to defraud the United States.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Trent England‏ @trentengland May 7
      Replying to @briantedjones

      They didn't have the Clinton Foundation to make it easy to pay for play, hence all the pathetic bumbling

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    5. Brian Ted Jones‏ @briantedjones May 7
      Replying to @trentengland

      Have you read @emptywheel's series on the questions? This post--on Mueller's theory of conspiracy to defraud the US--is also really helpful: https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/03/28/mueller-prepares-to-reveal-the-first-cards-in-the-hack-and-leak-conspiracy/ …

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    6. Trent England‏ @trentengland May 7
      Replying to @briantedjones @emptywheel

      The writer there assumes throughout a certain story, then points out where a few facts could align with that story. It's the story you guys want to be true, I get that. But it's also preposterous for several reasons. First...

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    7. Trent England‏ @trentengland May 7
      Replying to @trentengland @briantedjones @emptywheel

      Everyone knew Manafort had Russian connections. That's why hiring him was stupid. It was especially stupid if it was part of a super-secret plot. Then he was fired. Again, chaos, not conspiracy. But...

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    8. Troll McTrollski‏ @TrollMcTrollski May 7
      Replying to @trentengland @briantedjones @emptywheel

      And, with all due respect - your "you guys want this to be true, so you stitch together your story" can very easily be used against you. What with your willingness to cherry pick facts and refuse to recognize known facts...

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 7
      Replying to @TrollMcTrollski @trentengland @briantedjones

      Right. Particularly since THE VERY FIRST CLAIM he made shows a misunderstanding of the public record.

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    10. Trent England‏ @trentengland May 7
      Replying to @emptywheel @TrollMcTrollski @briantedjones

      I apologise for sharing a point of view that is too hard for you to engage with. I will now leave your echo chamber. Peace.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 7
      Replying to @trentengland @TrollMcTrollski @briantedjones

      The view that asks for *a single fact* to back up a claim you made? Well, yeah. Sorry. I'm a stickler for believing that boys who can't summon a single solitary fact to support their argument are not, themselves, the ones to lecture about made up reality.

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        2. Trent England‏ @trentengland May 7
          Replying to @emptywheel @TrollMcTrollski @briantedjones

          For the record, you rejected a NYT article. I'm not so obsessed about this as to have it all at my fingertips--super happy about that , now that I think of it. I'm a stickler for believing that liberal girls who sneer at the NYT are just playing games. Or something. Again, peace.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 7
          Replying to @trentengland @TrollMcTrollski @briantedjones

          Yes. I rejected a NYT narrative bc you don't want narratives, you want facts. Veselnitskaya has explained how that meeting got scheduled (and not by her). There are emails that explain it. Neither accords w/your version.

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        4. Trent England‏ @trentengland May 7
          Replying to @emptywheel @TrollMcTrollski @briantedjones

          Big kudos for spelling all these names right! And I appreciate the spacing; my eyesight sucks. Feel free to link--I'd love to look. But, again, it seems you're latched on to the facts that fit what you hope is true, rejecting some other facts, and so....

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 7
          Replying to @trentengland @TrollMcTrollski @briantedjones

          It helps to have a PhD involving a slavic language. But thanks for applauding my ability to spell when you're still struggling to find a single fact.

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        6. Trent England‏ @trentengland May 7
          Replying to @emptywheel @TrollMcTrollski @briantedjones

          One final thought, then dinner. I've had people set meetings with me on false pretenses to pitch what turned out to be conspiracy theories. You know what they said, when I told them as politely as I could that they were, well, not right? They said ... prove it.

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        7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 7
          Replying to @trentengland @TrollMcTrollski @briantedjones

          That's irrelevant to the point you have failed to substantiate. This is a question abt who got the meeting. The record is uncontested that it was Goldstone, and thru him Agalrov. That changes Q of the why substantially.

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        8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 7
          Replying to @emptywheel @trentengland and

          I'm happy to entertain a theory (not the one you made) that Goldstone and Agalarov lied. That might be consistent w/known facts, unlike your claim. Except there's a whole lot more baggage & history & direct phone calls once you get to the Agalrovs.

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