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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Jonathan H. Adler‏Verified account @jadler1969 May 6
      Replying to @AshaRangappa_ @marty_lederman and

      It's about control over the executive branch, but not the scope of executive branch power, so you could have a weak & unitary exec, or strong & non-unitary. 1/

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    2. Jonathan H. Adler‏Verified account @jadler1969 May 6
      Replying to @jadler1969 @AshaRangappa_ and

      So torture Q is about strength of exec, and ability to disregard legislative limits, not degree of control over subordinates. 2/2

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. Asha Rangappa‏Verified account @AshaRangappa_ May 6
      Replying to @jadler1969 @marty_lederman and

      What about Dersh's & Co.'s obstruction theory? The latest is that you cannot inquire even into the motives for why POTUS does an Act authorized by Art. II (in this case firing, though he uses pardon power by analogy).

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    4. Jonathan H. Adler‏Verified account @jadler1969 May 6
      Replying to @AshaRangappa_ @marty_lederman and

      I view that argument as a blend of claims about unitary executive (Pres has control over all subordinates) and inherent exec power (total discretionary control over prosecutory power). 1/

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    5. Jonathan H. Adler‏Verified account @jadler1969 May 6
      Replying to @jadler1969 @AshaRangappa_ and

      Given Mueller cant/wont induct President, Dersh argument also irrelevant. Whether Pres has power doesnt matter for impeachment inquiry, which necessarily considers how power (mis)used. 2/2

      1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
    6. Asha Rangappa‏Verified account @AshaRangappa_ May 6
      Replying to @jadler1969 @marty_lederman and

      But it matters in terms of whether POTUS will comply with a subpoena if Mueller ends up issuing one, and the reasons he would give for it.

      1 reply 2 retweets 12 likes
    7. Jonathan H. Adler‏Verified account @jadler1969 May 6
      Replying to @AshaRangappa_ @marty_lederman and

      Yes. We agree on that point.

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    8. Marty Lederman‏ @marty_lederman May 6
      Replying to @jadler1969 @AshaRangappa_ and

      1/ I don't think so. If Mueller subpoenas Trump (which I doubt--they'll likely work out an accommodation) and Trump resists, the grounds will not be that the POTUS's actions are not valid subjects of the SC investigation, or . . . @jacklgoldsmith

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Marty Lederman‏ @marty_lederman May 6
      Replying to @marty_lederman @jadler1969 and

      2/ . . . or that POTUS is not bound by law (Bush/Yoo) or that Mueller is subject to Trump's direction. All of those are bad, loser arguments. Instead, they'd argue some combo of (i) POTUS's time is precious; (ii) most of the Qs are "only" for counterintel report, ...

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    10. Marty Lederman‏ @marty_lederman May 6
      Replying to @marty_lederman @jadler1969 and

      3/ ... and not for possible GJ indictment; and (iii) Trump would have arguable claim of Exec. privilege as to most Qs involving his treatment of Comey/Flynn/Mueller/Sessions/Rosenstein.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 6
      Replying to @marty_lederman @jadler1969 and

      Q: Assume for the moment that the December 29 calls w/Kislyak were 1) ordered by Trump 2) deemed a key action furthering a conspiracy involving a quid (election assistance) quo pro (sanctions relief). I assume SOL on that is 5 years?

      9:16 AM - 6 May 2018
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        1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 6
          Replying to @emptywheel @marty_lederman and

          If Trump is no longer President on 12/28/2021, can he be indicted for this non-presidential act? If so, doesn't that mean impeachment ISN'T required to prosecute him for election conspiracy?

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