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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 4

      Here's @ZoeTillman's version of what went down w/Manafort today. Note that Manafort's lawyers didn't offer objection to EDVA lawyers taking over case, which might screw over Manafort more. https://www.buzzfeed.com/zoetillman/manafort-hearing-judge-russia …?

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 4

      Here's @joshgerstein updated post on the Ellis business.https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/04/mueller-challenged-manafort-case-568935 …

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 4

      Once this transcript is released gonna do a piece on the things Michael Dreeben DIDN'T say. It's details like this that make the question interesting.pic.twitter.com/PehYzYLJpp

      10:43 AM - 4 May 2018
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        2. Josh Gerstein‏Verified account @joshgerstein May 4
          Replying to @emptywheel @ZoeTillman

          Dreeben said clarifications of Mueller's jurisdiction were the result of "ongoing discussions" and interaction with the acting AG. U'd think if there was paper he'd say so, but maybe they feel it's all deliberative. I mean there must be drafts of the August memo, no?

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 4
          Replying to @joshgerstein @ZoeTillman

          There'd be Urgent memos to Rosenstein covering any major events, so definitely including the two searches.

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        4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 4
          Replying to @emptywheel @joshgerstein @ZoeTillman

          What's most interesting is there might be a later version of the Rosenstein memo that authorizes investigation of the election-year mortgage fraud, but that would also include a broad range of other things (and so would include scary long redactions). No one asked for that.

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        5. Josh Gerstein‏Verified account @joshgerstein May 4
          Replying to @emptywheel @ZoeTillman

          Dreeben suggested today that was covered by the Ukraine bullet because the bank fraud was a way to extract money from the assets he purchased with ill-gotten Ukraine funds.

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        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 4
          Replying to @joshgerstein @ZoeTillman

          Hmm.

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        2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 4
          Replying to @TCleveland4Real @ZoeTillman @joshgerstein

          Manafort's lawyers actually said there was an additional bullet. So it's unclear.

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        3. Josh Gerstein‏Verified account @joshgerstein May 4
          Replying to @emptywheel @TCleveland4Real @ZoeTillman

          when was that?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 4
          Replying to @joshgerstein @TCleveland4Real @ZoeTillman

          I THOUGHT that was reported form a DC hearing. That you were probably at. So if you don't know about it then...

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        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 4
          Replying to @TCleveland4Real @joshgerstein @ZoeTillman

          It was just a possibility until the mention of the additional bullet that may be apocryphal. Now I'm going to have to see where I got that from.

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        2. Ira Goldman  🦆 🦆 🦆‏ @KDbyProxy May 4
          Replying to @emptywheel @ZoeTillman @joshgerstein

          Ira Goldman  🦆 🦆 🦆 Retweeted emptywheel

          B/c so often that's the best part. 👍🏼https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/992459718546345985 …

          Ira Goldman  🦆 🦆 🦆 added,

          emptywheel @emptywheel
          Once this transcript is released gonna do a piece on the things Michael Dreeben DIDN'T say. It's details like this that make the question interesting. pic.twitter.com/PehYzYLJpp
          Show this thread
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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 4
          Replying to @KDbyProxy @ZoeTillman @joshgerstein

          This is why my doctorate is in literature and not law. License to speak in great detail about what isn't there.

          0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
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        2. Ben_Franklin‏ @_Ben_Franklin1 May 4
          Replying to @emptywheel @ZoeTillman @joshgerstein

          Thanks for the thread- looking forward to more. Can you floss this for non-law tweeps? It looks as if Ellis, not Mueller, is going out of bounds. Or??

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 4
          Replying to @_Ben_Franklin1 @ZoeTillman @joshgerstein

          Ellis is being a judge. We pay them to push lawyers around and should be grateful when they do, especially when prosecutors are the target. Likely worst outcome is EDVA prosecutes this on their own, which wouldn't do much damage to Mueller's case, unless DC got moved to EDVA

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        2. Willis Warren‏ @warisill May 4
          Replying to @emptywheel @ZoeTillman @joshgerstein

          Seems pretty obvious to me that the judge is zeroing in on the discrepancy between Cohen and Manafort, the former isn't being prosecuted by Mueller et al. But the difference is that the crimes committed with Manafort (by tRUmp) happened during the election, not before.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 4
          Replying to @warisill @ZoeTillman @joshgerstein

          Also that Manafort's alleged crimes involve Russia and Cohen's involve hush payments to American sex workers.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        4. Willis Warren‏ @warisill May 4
          Replying to @emptywheel @ZoeTillman @joshgerstein

          I can't see the DOJ losing this. It would change the way crimes are prosecuted. The conspiracy minded might think the judge is just pulling a nunez

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