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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 4

    That said, Manafort might be MORE screwed once EDVA takes this over, bc flipping won't get him out of the charges and it's paper case and he's still fucked in any case.

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      2. Greg Sargent‏Verified account @ThePlumLineGS May 4
        Replying to @emptywheel @lrozen

        What would impact on SC's probe be?

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 4
        Replying to @ThePlumLineGS @lrozen

        Possibly nothing. Unless ABJ decides the rest of the charges currently before her should be in EDVA, they've still got those, and he'll have a harder time to flip out of these EDVA charges if Mueller is not running them. But NAL and I await what others have to say.

        3 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
      4. Brian Beutler‏Verified account @brianbeutler May 4
        Replying to @emptywheel @ThePlumLineGS @lrozen

        Wouldn’t Mueller and possibly also EDVA have an interest in an appeal if the judge actually rules this way?

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      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 4
        Replying to @brianbeutler @ThePlumLineGS @lrozen

        Mueller could also just let EDVA handle it. I await reliable reporting (@joshgerstein or @ZoeTillman) but it sounds like Ellis might be amenable to EDVA handling it. As I said, these are paper charges. It'd be fairly breathtaking for Ellis to say the charges have to go entirely.

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      6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 4
        Replying to @emptywheel @brianbeutler and

        But i am honestly amused by the implications of an EDVA precedent that says you can't charge defendants to get them to flip. It'd be a devastating ruling in CIA/Pentagon's home turf.

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      7. Brian Beutler‏Verified account @brianbeutler May 4
        Replying to @emptywheel @ThePlumLineGS and

        Right, which is why it’s hard to imagine this judge, much as he might have fishy motives in this particular case, actually going there.

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      2. fabuKat‏ @katwitdown May 4
        Replying to @emptywheel

        He winds up with three federal prosecutions.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 4
        Replying to @katwitdown

        Maybe just two if he flips out of the DC one. But yeah, not necessarily to his benefit.

        0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
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      2. Benjamin Adams‏ @BenAdamsO_O May 4
        Replying to @emptywheel

        IIRC, there are DOJ materials that sanction charges being brought to increase leverage. no?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel May 4
        Replying to @BenAdamsO_O

        Yes, which Mueller's lawyers have submitted in response to this challenge.

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      2. Michelle D.‏ @chelleinchicago May 4
        Replying to @emptywheel

        And they'll still likely get all the information they need about Trump, won't they?

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      3. Patrick Bruck‏ @scott_satzer May 4
        Replying to @chelleinchicago @emptywheel

        Yeah, whether or not the court sees it as "leverage" (odd thing to worry about in criminal prosecutions & ongoing criminal investigations, but I'm no expert), I really don't think evidence points to Mueller actually "needing" anything from Manafort at this point.

        1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
      4. Michelle D.‏ @chelleinchicago May 4
        Replying to @scott_satzer @emptywheel

        Thank you! Yes, that's my hope too. It would probably make Mueller's job easier but I hope it's not necessary.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Mark Twain‏ @SarriaPaul May 4
        Replying to @emptywheel

        If this judge rules in favor of Manafort Rosenstein is done!

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      2. Smelodies‏ @SmelOdiesOG May 4
        Replying to @emptywheel

        He seems intent on not flipping in any case.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. marina‏ @marinakyritsis May 4
        Replying to @SmelOdiesOG @emptywheel

        Can someone help on EVDA? I’m getting Equine Veternary Dental Association. I’m thinking...not.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Smelodies‏ @SmelOdiesOG May 4
        Replying to @marinakyritsis

        You live in Santorini? I went busking there!https://youtu.be/-K9E9AJJ-o0 

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      5. marina‏ @marinakyritsis May 4
        Replying to @SmelOdiesOG

        Great video btw

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      1. Dale Cooper  🇺🇸‏ @AgentCoopr702 May 4
        Replying to @emptywheel

        He's not fucked at all. He's going to be pardoned no matter what happens and the judge just gave Trump political cover to do it.

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