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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 22

      emptywheel Retweeted ǝʌɐp

      Folks who are still publishing that Comey said, "yes, USG had a FISA order targeting Mike Flynn," please read this thread and rethink your life choices.https://twitter.com/empiricalerror/status/988151741152747522 …

      emptywheel added,

      ǝʌɐp @empiricalerror
      Replying to @trumpismehtbh @emptywheel
      then you have to believe that (a) comey himself misclassified it in the first place, and then (b) after he left, the administration continued to misclassify it although *we know* they upped the classification on at least one other of his memos (from unclassified to confidential).
      2 replies 26 retweets 66 likes
    2. Zhuang Zhou’s Crooked yet Steadfast Tree‏ @politicalwilli Apr 22
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Meh.. no one has been saying that FISA was got on Gen Flynn as prime suspect .. we have been saying that it it wasn't 702 in fact it was lower titles (I,II, IV etc of FISA) that allows the two hop retrospective surveillance+ of all Page's contacts..

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Zhuang Zhou’s Crooked yet Steadfast Tree‏ @politicalwilli Apr 22
      Replying to @politicalwilli @emptywheel

      Sorry.. I didn't refer to any notes.. and not doing now.. FISA section VII is the 702 stuff that got reauthorized in Feb.. Section I, II, III etc was what Nunes pointed to in first par of his memo by saying not Title VII.. still no notes..

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 22
      Replying to @politicalwilli

      Hmm. You're still only managing about a 50% comprehension rate of the words you write. I think you're even confusing Page and Flynn.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Zhuang Zhou’s Crooked yet Steadfast Tree‏ @politicalwilli Apr 22
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Where?.. FISC had one application and 3 renewals for Page :: 1st: ~Oct17 2nd:~ Dec 17 3rd: ~ Feb 18 4th:~ May18 (still no notes) no one said anything about Flynn in FISCourt.. established by Nunes memo and not contradicted by Schiff that they were not title VII (702)..

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 22
      Replying to @politicalwilli

      Hi. This thread is 1) about Flynn, not Page 2) reserved for people who know the least little tiny thing about FISA. So, goodbye, then?

      1:57 PM - 22 Apr 2018
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        2. Zhuang Zhou’s Crooked yet Steadfast Tree‏ @politicalwilli Apr 22
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Apols.. I thought we were putting to rest the erroneous thought that FISA app was targeted at Flynn.. it wasn't It was Page. tho not Title VII.. We can at least agree that the FISC wasn't approached to target Flynn directly..

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Zhuang Zhou’s Crooked yet Steadfast Tree‏ @politicalwilli Apr 22
          Replying to @politicalwilli @emptywheel

          So we have one FISA app (Page) not Title VII:: then we have to ask what level of penetration into associates the other Parts of FISA allows.. there is retroactive and widening of net process allowed there..

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 22
          Replying to @politicalwilli

          Can you please stop littering my TL with idiotic comments that do nothing other than betray your ignorance? I mean, I'm happy to block you but I'd prefer if you just didn't litter my TL>

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Zhuang Zhou’s Crooked yet Steadfast Tree‏ @politicalwilli Apr 22
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Maybe try not to be so denigrating to people who are only trying to engage in a proper conversation .. I know you get trolls I am not one of those.. This is about the whole FISA thing not just this one instance.. Thought that is what you cared about. So do I..

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 22
          Replying to @politicalwilli

          I'm denigrating to people who double down on being wrong every time they're corrected. As I noted, the solution is for you to stop lecturing me false things about FISA.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Zhuang Zhou’s Crooked yet Steadfast Tree‏ @politicalwilli Apr 22
          Replying to @emptywheel

          But how have you corrected me? We both agree Flynn wasn't targeted.. Just Page... you just haven't responded to the non Title VII extent of that original and 3 repeat FISC applications..

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 22
          Replying to @politicalwilli

          I haven't corrected you bc I'd have to teach you so much before I could even get to the point of listing the many things you got laughably wrong.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        9. Zhuang Zhou’s Crooked yet Steadfast Tree‏ @politicalwilli Apr 22
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Laughably? OK.. so we start from the point that we have both read the whole 1978 act +amendments.. I admit that you have spent considerably more time on this than I have. But one person can't know everything..esp when the way it is interpreted/implemented is most often classified

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