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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 19

    If you want FBI to continue to use false statements charges to build conspiracy cases (AKA, Papadopoulos and Flynn), then you have to accept criminal referral for McCabe. https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/04/19/the-mccabe-referral-is-unsurprising-and-probably-justified/ …

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      1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 19

        And while I'm selective about when I'm comfortable w/FBI's reliance on false statements charges, it is necessary for a guy who sent people to cages for it to be subject to same standard.

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      2. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings Apr 19
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Yup. But also there is (and should be) different standards for dismissal versus being put in jail. So it may be the case that he should have been dismissed but not jailed, or neither, or both, depending on the facts.

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 19
        Replying to @pwnallthethings

        The prison, not jail, question will come down to materiality, IMO. But Horowitz has provided abundant evidence his lies -- and they were lies and more -- obstructed the investigation.

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      4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 19
        Replying to @emptywheel @pwnallthethings

        The 2 things that most infuriate me abt McCabe's behaviors: 1) He created diversions that put others at risk 2) He used every cheap trick in the book to disclaim his lies

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      5. Connor Lynch‏ @realconnorlynch Apr 19
        Replying to @emptywheel @pwnallthethings

        McCabe was not the only, or even the original, source for that WSJ story. It seems plausible that some would-be prosecution witnesses against McCabe—especially from NY field office—probably had a strong incentive to throw McCabe under the bus to hide their own leak participation.

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      6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 19
        Replying to @realconnorlynch @pwnallthethings

        You've just demonstrated you haven't read the report. When you have, let me know what you think about the charges that are entirely different from the ones you think they are.

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      7. Connor Lynch‏ @realconnorlynch Apr 19
        Replying to @emptywheel @pwnallthethings

        You're right; I didn't read the entire thing. But I was referring specifically to the fact that NY-ADIC gave some damaging statements, not all of which seem to correspond 1:1 with his contemporaneous notes, and McCabe believed that office responsible for the initial leaks.

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      8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 19
        Replying to @realconnorlynch @pwnallthethings

        Except that's completely unrelated to the charged conduct. Indeed, he got away with not copping to bawling NY-ADIC out by saying he didn't recall doing so. The key witnesses here are basically FBI Investigative Agents.

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      1. Jody is scared/not halloween-related‏ @JodyShenn Apr 19
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Sure but we can also indict Sessions for perjury?

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      1. Space Force One‏ @GDingers Apr 19
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Lack of candor vs straight up lying

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      2. Devastating McDee‏ @devdotcom Apr 19
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I'd be a fool to accept anything from this administration.

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      1. Selendrile‏ @Selendrile Apr 21
        Replying to @emptywheel

        What about Hillary.... She also lied. Comey corroborates.

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      1. Commander Stewart Robertson of Space Force‏ @SSRob44 Apr 21
        Replying to @emptywheel @ProgressOfAKind

        I hope they all, Dems and Reps, go to jail then you guys can start from scratch.

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      1. Miguel Rivera‏ @migriverat Apr 21
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Presumably also consistent and acceptable to find all deception ok toward people who might lock you up.

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      1. Skuke Lywalker‏ @fancypantsUSA Apr 19
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Amen!

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      1. Chris Regan‏ @EverydayRegan Apr 19
        Replying to @emptywheel @DemFromCT

        Yes and that should work both ways, right?

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      1. Rayray‏ @rayrayps156 Apr 19
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I agree. Although James Comey will never admit this, McCabe was the one that was looking to leak the "new" investigation into @HillaryClinton emails that were on on Weiner's laptop.

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      1. Violeta‏ @VioletaQSmith Apr 19
        Replying to @emptywheel

        "The report fails to adequately address evidence — including sworn testimony — and documents that prove Mr. McCabe advised Director Comey repeatedly that he was working with the Wall Street Journal on the stories in question prior to the publication,” Mr. Bromwich said. "

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