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    1. Jesse Eisinger‏Verified account @eisingerj Apr 18

      In the olden days, back in the early 2000s, the DOJ could demand that companies waive attorney-client privilege as part of cooperation. Seems fair to me: You want to be cooperative? Let us see what you did. You don’t want to cooperate? Ok, take your chances.

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    2. Jesse Eisinger‏Verified account @eisingerj Apr 18

      This was codified in the Thompson Memo, named after Larry Thompson, who is one of the heroes of my book, “The Chickenshit Club,” suitable for framing or wrapping fish: https://www.amazon.com/Chickenshit-Club-Department-Prosecute-Executives/dp/1501121367/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495837955&sr=8-1&keywords=chickenshit+club ….

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    3. Jesse Eisinger‏Verified account @eisingerj Apr 18

      Corporations and the defense bar went bananas. Through the 2000s, they fought this. They lobbied Congress. The US Chamber of Commerce joined with… the ACLU to battle this. Strange bedfellows.

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    4. Jesse Eisinger‏Verified account @eisingerj Apr 18

      Corporations said they were being coerced. They said the government was trammeling on the sacred attorney-client privilege.

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    5. Jesse Eisinger‏Verified account @eisingerj Apr 18

      Sidenote: Attorney-client privilege is not a Constitutional right. It’s a rule of evidence that predates the American legal system. A bedrock principle, to be sure, but not a right.

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    6. Jesse Eisinger‏Verified account @eisingerj Apr 18

      Sidenote 2: One of the most zealous defenders of corporations in this fight was… Andrew Weissmann. (https://www.thecorporatecounsel.net/blog/2007/09/senate-judiciary-committee-hears-testimony-on-attorney-client-privilege.html …) He is now Mueller’s number two. So he knows from privilege.

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    7. Jesse Eisinger‏Verified account @eisingerj Apr 18

      Unsurprisingly, corporations exaggerated. They never pointed to any serious abuses of attorney-client privilege.

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    8. Jesse Eisinger‏Verified account @eisingerj Apr 18

      Nonetheless, corps won. The Senate prepared to pass a law reining in the DOJ. The DOJ caved. In policy changes during the mid-aughts, they rolled back their own power. Now prosecutors are prevented from even hinting to companies that they would like them to waive privilege.

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    9. Jesse Eisinger‏Verified account @eisingerj Apr 18

      What has this meant? Companies hide behind privilege. They shield wrongdoing because lawyers were in the room. The biggest battles in corporate investigations are abt what materials prosecutors can get. Companies claim privilege aggressively & abusively, many prosecutors tell me.

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    10. Jesse Eisinger‏Verified account @eisingerj Apr 18

      Michael Cohen would love this setup! He wants to review the materials before the govt! Unlike in the Michael Cohen case, these fights don’t happen in court but behind closed doors. The public cannot see them or evaluate them. Companies roll the government.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 18
      Replying to @eisingerj

      To be fair one reason SDNY was able to get a warrant is bc Trump Org was not cooperating.

      6:42 AM - 18 Apr 2018
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        1. Tailfoot McWalshy‏ @BuglegsMcWalshy Apr 18
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          TIL. Trump's jv with suspected Russian mob son Felix Sater at Trump Soho are being investigated for money laundering $3.1 million through RE purchases of Elvira Kudryashova of the accused Krapanov launderers family.https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/33285dfa-9231-11e6-8df8-d3778b55a923 …

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