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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 14

      emptywheel Retweeted Benjamin Wittes

      When @benjaminwittes and I agree... I'll add two bits to his reasons for caution. 1) Sources SOUND like they may be the ones who gave Mueller evidence. In which case it doesn't even sound like they brought confirmation.https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/status/985150023703912448 …

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      Benjamin WittesVerified account @benjaminwittes
      I've thought about this story overnight—and frankly, count me cautious about it until some other news organizations confirm it and fill in some details. A few reasons: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article208870264.html …
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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 14

      2) While SDNY prosecutors said yesterday they were proceeding very quickly w/Cohen investigation, I can't see investigation to be referred if Mueller had confirmed such damning information in case in chief.

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        1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 14

          3) One more bit: this story does't say WHEN Mueller received this information. Congress has denied it had corroborating evidence on the dossier reasonably recently and this rumor has been around for a very long time. If he received this last year, then he probably DIDN'T confirm.

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        2. Stanley Cohen‏ @StanleyCohenLaw Apr 14
          Replying to @emptywheel @benjaminwittes

          Unless it was a strategic decision to spread the investigation.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 14
          Replying to @StanleyCohenLaw @benjaminwittes

          Does anything you know (well) about Mueller suggest he'd let something so critical to case in chief out of his personal control?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Stanley Cohen‏ @StanleyCohenLaw Apr 14
          Replying to @emptywheel @benjaminwittes

          Yup. Previous experience with him on a "terrorism" case. He's a chess player.

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 14
          Replying to @StanleyCohenLaw @benjaminwittes

          Meaning he might use SDNY as a flank attack or that he wouldn't let anything out of his control?

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        6. Stanley Cohen‏ @StanleyCohenLaw Apr 14
          Replying to @emptywheel @benjaminwittes

          As you know investigations starting in one district magically end up in another Circuit where there is some nexus and where the law on an important point is more favorable to the government's case.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 14
          Replying to @StanleyCohenLaw @benjaminwittes

          Are the search/taint precedents better in SDNY/2nd?

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        8. Stanley Cohen‏ @StanleyCohenLaw Apr 14
          Replying to @emptywheel @benjaminwittes

          The two best circuits in the country for the government are the 4th and 2nd. The best districts the SDNY and EDVA

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        9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 14
          Replying to @StanleyCohenLaw @benjaminwittes

          So yes, a reading of plain view in SDNY would be more permissive than in DC?

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        2. Grizzly Man‏ @grizzleeman Apr 14
          Replying to @emptywheel @benjaminwittes

          Would referring a corruption case to SDNY somehow preclude Mueller from including Cohen in his overall collusion case?

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 14
          Replying to @grizzleeman @benjaminwittes

          Not at all (and arguably he might use corruption charges in SDNY to get him to flip on the conspiracy case). But if he had evidence Cohen lied under oath abt Prague, his Agents would have probable cause for case in chief search.

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        1. Cosmo3807 🌊‏ @Cosmo3807 Apr 14
          Replying to @emptywheel @benjaminwittes

          I think the @PalmerReport is correct. Mueller is spreading out the illegality so that others can cover for him if he is handcuffed (metaphorically) by rump. Plus, SDNY is where the crimes were committed.

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        1. VA FFX‏ @LiberalVirginia Apr 14
          Replying to @emptywheel @benjaminwittes

          Makes perfect since it you think Mueller might get fired.

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        2. An Reporter‏ @ImAnReporter Apr 14
          Replying to @emptywheel @benjaminwittes

          Exactly.

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        3. VA FFX‏ @LiberalVirginia Apr 14
          Replying to @ImAnReporter @emptywheel @benjaminwittes

          Nope. Makes perfect sense if you think Mueller and Rosenstein are on the chopping block

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        4. VA FFX‏ @LiberalVirginia Apr 14
          Replying to @LiberalVirginia @ImAnReporter and

          Also the proof was most likely found as the result of Cohens phone tap.

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