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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 2

    emptywheel Retweeted E.W. Niedermeyer

    It's really remarkable how what is fundamentally a manufacturing company can resemble the snake oil peddlers of Wall Street.https://twitter.com/Tweetermeyer/status/980791332909195264 …

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    E.W. Niedermeyer @Tweetermeyer
    EXCLUSIVE: emails from a source inside Tesla show Musk and Tesla management rallying the troops and trying to accelerate sales as sentiment on the company turns negative. pic.twitter.com/u55MnJ8jsP
    6:00 AM - 2 Apr 2018
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      2. Benjamin Adams‏ @BenAdamsO_O Apr 2
        Replying to @emptywheel

        "Snake oil." That @elonmusk scammer is (1) basically running the US space program because we screwed it up, (2) leading the world in renewable/ battery tech, and (3) trying to mass produce an EV for the first time in history.

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 2
        Replying to @BenAdamsO_O @elonmusk

        Elon Musk is leading the world in renewable battery tech? Have you checked with South Korea if they agree? In any case, none of those issues have to do with running a manufacturing company, which is precisely my point.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Benjamin Adams‏ @BenAdamsO_O Apr 2
        Replying to @emptywheel @elonmusk

        Snake oil seems a bit rough. SpaceX is manufacturing reusable rockets for goodness sakes.

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      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 2
        Replying to @BenAdamsO_O @elonmusk

        I'm not aware that SpaceX is selling to the consumer market. Did I miss that announcement?

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      6. Benjamin Adams‏ @BenAdamsO_O Apr 2
        Replying to @emptywheel @elonmusk

        You keep qualifying and then qualifying and then qualifying some more. He's having trouble mass-producing an automobile. That means he is selling snake oil? Ford had a head start of literally 100 years.

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      2. Gunnar Björnsson‏ @GunnarBj Apr 2
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Weird tweet. At least the Musk email is about production, not *sales*.

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Apr 2
        Replying to @GunnarBj

        Which means it's it about sales. To Wall Street.

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      4. Gunnar Björnsson‏ @GunnarBj Apr 2
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Value of company obviously always a concern, especially with recent stock market drop. But the email looks like a pretty standard internal message from management reporting some improvement on a well-known problem for the company.

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      1. Hoag in the House‏ @HoagML Apr 2
        Replying to @emptywheel

        seem to be pretty benign emails tbqh, but it's early so maybe I'm missing something?

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      1. bmaz‏ @bmaz Apr 2
        Replying to @emptywheel

        "Accelerate sales" is critical to them, because it is run much like a Ponzi scheme.

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      1. Thomas Augustine‏ @ThomAugustine Apr 2
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Are there any large cap companies that do something beside worry about their shareholder value and peddle snake oil?

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