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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 23

      Why do you hack a stock images company? [I realize there are good reasons--I find those reasons interesting] https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press-release/file/1045781/download …pic.twitter.com/y5flTBKReq

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 23

      So are University 1 and University 2 in SDNY? (You'd have venue anyway from UN, but the specificity here is all those two Universities.)

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    3. matt blaze‏Verified account @mattblaze Mar 23
      Replying to @emptywheel

      A lot of this reads like they were mainly downloading paywalled journals (for the university accounts, anyway). Like an international version of the Aaron Swartz case.

      3 replies 5 retweets 20 likes
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 23
      Replying to @mattblaze

      You're actually the second person to say that to me. Takes a lot of journals to add up to $3.4B.

      3 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
    5. Vengeful Librarian‏ @vengeful_librar Mar 23
      Replying to @emptywheel @mattblaze

      DOJ can get pretty creative at inflating dollar damage numbers. If you add up all the grant money that went into the published research you'd probably get there soon enough.

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    6. matt blaze‏Verified account @mattblaze Mar 23
      Replying to @vengeful_librar @emptywheel

      They talk about the cost to "procure and access" the data, but not to create the data, which is odd. I wonder if this is just the sum of the total library budgets at the two universities over all time.

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 23
      Replying to @mattblaze @vengeful_librar

      So John Bolton is going to justify his war against Iran because IRGC wanted access to science scholarship?

      1 reply 3 retweets 14 likes
    8. matt blaze‏Verified account @mattblaze Mar 23
      Replying to @emptywheel @vengeful_librar

      I'm curious which two universities they're talking about, and what, if anything, other than library stuff, was downloaded. Major universities with at least one SDNY campus include Columbia, NYU, SUNY, CUNY, Cornell, Fordham, etc.

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 23
      Replying to @mattblaze @vengeful_librar

      That's why I asked. But it'd HAVE to be more than academic journals--otherwise you wouldn't have to hack 6,000 professors.

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    10. matt blaze‏Verified account @mattblaze Mar 23
      Replying to @emptywheel @vengeful_librar

      But why not hack as many as you can? Marginal cost of moderately targeted spearphishing is practically zero once you're set up.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 23
      Replying to @mattblaze @vengeful_librar

      Seems like if you were only interested in Academic journals and Westlaw you could get what you wanted by hacking 5 Harvard profs.

      8:27 AM - 23 Mar 2018
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        2. matt blaze‏Verified account @mattblaze Mar 23
          Replying to @emptywheel @vengeful_librar

          I'm guessing they were tasked with targeting universities, and got whatever they could, which included a lot of library access. Also, being able to spread among multiple accounts makes exfiltrating that many articles a lot easier without anyone noticing.

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        3. matt blaze‏Verified account @mattblaze Mar 23
          Replying to @mattblaze @emptywheel @vengeful_librar

          Also, the $3.4 billion number may be over ALL US universities targeted, not just the two in SDNY. If so, it's pretty easy to get there just from journal subscription fees, etc.

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