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    1. Daphne Keller‏ @daphnehk Mar 17

      Why are people calling this a data breach? It seems like an apps TOS violation, and no different from the privacy problem that defined FB apps from day one. It sucks but doesn’t seem surprising. What am I missing?https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/17/cambridge-analytica-facebook-influence-us-election …

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    2. Cathy Gellis‏ @CathyGellis Mar 17
      Replying to @daphnehk

      Probably because the effect is so similar to if it had been a data breach. I'm not sure it's the best way to analyze it, but it's not ridiculous either.

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    3. Daphne Keller‏ @daphnehk Mar 17
      Replying to @CathyGellis

      It goes to CFAA analysis in important ways.

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    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 17
      Replying to @daphnehk @CathyGellis

      Sure, but given that both CA and FB are facing challenges under EU law, the TOS language is actually far more useful.

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    5. Daphne Keller‏ @daphnehk Mar 17
      Replying to @emptywheel @CathyGellis

      Not sure I follow. Useful for what?

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    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 17
      Replying to @daphnehk @CathyGellis

      As Cathy notes, EU law (actually even just UK law) will provide affected users a great deal of leverage over FB and CA. Breach is an American word that brings meaningless protections. Harvest and sale, or whatever you want to call it, brings far more in Europe.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 17
      Replying to @emptywheel @daphnehk @CathyGellis

      And there are legal challenges in the works in both UK (v CA) and Ireland (v FB) on those grounds.

      12:04 PM - 17 Mar 2018
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        1. Daphne Keller‏ @daphnehk Mar 17
          Replying to @emptywheel @CathyGellis

          Agree. And stuff grandfathered in by FTC consent decree here is still fair game, and under stronger laws, there.

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