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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 16

      All: WRT The ProPublica correction on Gina Haspel. It is correct that torturing one person not two is still torturing someone. But there is a crucial difference bt Zubaydah and Nashiri. 1/n

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 16

      We know Zubaydah's treatment in Thailand exceeded Bybee memo, therefore was not "legal". Whoever did that could not, now, say they just did what DOJ authorized. 2/n

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    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 16

      We don't know whether Nashiri's torture, in Thailand, stayed within bounds of memo. We know his later treatment did not, but that would have been after he was shipped onto someone else. 3/n

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    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 16

      So the Zubaydah and Nashiri v just Nashiri is about whether Haspel can credibly claim everything she oversaw was authorized by Bybee memo. It doesn't change fact of torture, or her role in coverup, but it does go to claim it was "legal." 4/4

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    5. Troll McTrollski‏ @TrollMcTrollski Mar 16
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Thanks for explaining it all. I get the importance of being able to pull the "I was following orders" thing... But, "legal" or not, hard for me not to be disturbed by the accounts that she was, uh, enjoying herself doing that shit...

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 16
      Replying to @TrollMcTrollski

      That's a description of the person overseeing Zubadayah's torture, so not her.

      8:51 AM - 16 Mar 2018
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        1. Troll McTrollski‏ @TrollMcTrollski Mar 16
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Hmm. I wasn't referring to any one specific description. There were multiple accounts though, no? Rand Paul's "gleeful joy" - was that also based on incorrect attribution? - admittedly, not a pro, just a news-consuming, click-bait biting monkey here...

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