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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 15

      emptywheel Retweeted emptywheel

      Reupping bc STOP PRETENDING A FUCKING SUBPOENA IS A HUGE FUCKING DEAL TO GET CLICKS.https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/974374975208673281 …

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      emptywheel @emptywheel
      BREAKING! Robert Mueller Would Be Fucking Stupid If He DIDN'T Subpoena Trump Organization https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/03/15/breaking-robert-mueller-would-be-fucking-stupid-if-he-didnt-subpoena-trump-organization/ …
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    2. Magnvald Astgeirsson‏ @astgeirsson Mar 15
      Replying to @emptywheel

      I think the hysteria is more directed at the realization that Mueller’s investigation is expanding and moving forward, coupled with the predicament it puts the Trump family in, than it is directed at shock the subpoena itself was issued.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 16
      Replying to @astgeirsson

      Except there's zero reason to believe it is expanding.

      4:25 AM - 16 Mar 2018
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        2. Magnvald Astgeirsson‏ @astgeirsson Mar 16
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Issuing a subpoena to a previously not subpoenaed organization that is the nucleus of the president’s personal and professional operations since 1971 might reasonably be seen as expansion for some. But, sure, the focus is totally because people want clicks.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 16
          Replying to @astgeirsson

          Do you "reasonably" know what was already turned over by Trump Org?

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        4. Magnvald Astgeirsson‏ @astgeirsson Mar 16
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Of course not, but this is besides the point that there might be other reasons why some people (journos included) might be hyper focused on the subpoena news than just they should’ve expected it and thus are only seeking clicks. Not into rabbit holes.

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        5. Magnvald Astgeirsson‏ @astgeirsson Mar 16
          Replying to @astgeirsson @emptywheel

          The subpoena is the first known time that Mueller has demanded documents (subpoena or informal request) directly related to Trump’s businesses. That puts the investigation closer to Trump personally. Again, seems reasonable for some to view that as expansion.

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        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 16
          Replying to @astgeirsson

          Oh. Sorry. That's utterly and batshittedly false. So got another reason to justify the breathlessness?

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        7. Magnvald Astgeirsson‏ @astgeirsson Mar 16
          Replying to @emptywheel

          It’s not false. It is the first publicly known occurrence of Mueller demanding documents from the Trump Organization. But again, issuing an order for documents from Trump’s business entities is an expansion of the investigation by any reasonable measure.

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        8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 16
          Replying to @astgeirsson

          1) CNN reported in January that he requested voluntary production of Trump Org 2) We have already SEEN (last summer) documents from Trump Org we know to have been given to Mueller But aside from the actual evidence, sure. FIRST EVAH!!!!

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        9. Magnvald Astgeirsson‏ @astgeirsson Mar 16
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Ok. This itself is getting fairly breathless. I think it’s reasonable for people to think of yesterday’s news as first impression and an expansion. That’s all.

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