To what extent does 702 oversight turn on technical questions rather than legal ones? Not fair to attribute to “tech” what “security/privacy twitter” thinks about things, but security/privacy twitter has been pretty terrible on FISA.
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Replying to @tqbf @WatsonLadd
To the extent that the PCLOB’s main activity was to obtain a clear technical understanding of what the NSA’s technical architecture was in implementing 702.pic.twitter.com/y1BmtSIdXl
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Which is to say that, without high-level expertise on the committee, they would have been entirely at the mercy of the IC’s representations of how the program worked. It goes without saying that any legal interpretations drawn from that understanding would be GIGO.
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Replying to @matthew_d_green @WatsonLadd
At the time you’re talking about, weren’t they entirely at the mercy of NSA’s representations?
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Replying to @tqbf @WatsonLadd
They had the ability to ask specific and detailed technical questions and (I presume) receive more complete answers. But without anyone who could do so, they were essentially receiving a PowerPoint presentation.
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Replying to @matthew_d_green @WatsonLadd
Right, I’m just saying that by these terms, everything PCLOB has done w/r/t/ 702 to date has been GIGO — unless I’m missing part of your argument.
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Replying to @tqbf @WatsonLadd
My assumption is that the IC does not lie to their oversight boards. But that they might not *volunteer* specific details that could fundamentally improve the board’s understanding of, say, the amount of incidental collection — in a way that would cast the IC in a bad light.
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Note PCLOB didn't mention the cyber functions of 702, even though they knew about them and concerns about the kind of selectors used are more technically complex. That's an example where they were ill-served w/o a tech expert.
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Replying to @emptywheel @matthew_d_green and
Note, too, that the FISC definition of metadata remains redacted, and Congress just sort of blew wind on that issue in this year's reauth.
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Replying to @emptywheel @matthew_d_green and
@mattblaze, Susan Landau, and I reached out to relevant Hill staffers on the subject, but without visible effect.1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
And I was pushing from the other side, begging people to call you guys in.
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Replying to @emptywheel @matthew_d_green and
As you know, I'm available for any such activities that do not compel me to cross an ethical line.
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Replying to @SteveBellovin @matthew_d_green and
Yup. It's infuriating this was not reviewed during reauth.
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