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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Mieke Ooooooooyang  🎃‏Verified account @MiekeEoyang Mar 8

      Mieke Ooooooooyang  🎃 Retweeted Jane Mayer

      This is what I don't understand about the attacks on the Steele memo. The things in it have largely turned out to be corroborated. If a campaign had paid to run a title search on Trump's car, that doesn't mean the title is wrong.https://twitter.com/JaneMayerNYer/status/971765034715099136 …

      Mieke Ooooooooyang  🎃 added,

      Jane MayerVerified account @JaneMayerNYer
      Wow- WSJ adds credibility to Steele's Romney Memo: Russian Trolls Tried to Torpedo Romney for Secretary of State https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-trolls-tried-to-torpedo-mitt-romneys-shot-at-secretary-of-state-1520505000 … via @WSJ
      15 replies 148 retweets 531 likes
    2. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings Mar 8
      Replying to @MiekeEoyang

      The Page stuff was corroborated. There are also errors in it.

      3 replies 1 retweet 9 likes
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 8
      Replying to @TCleveland4Real @pwnallthethings @MiekeEoyang

      Right: it's a series of near misses so consistent (to say nothing of how painfully behind it was on the hack-and-leak and other digital stuff) that it raises real questions.

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    4. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings Mar 8
      Replying to @emptywheel @TCleveland4Real @MiekeEoyang

      The Page meeting was the only bit I found especially interesting in the whole memo, because it is very specific, very few people could claim it within source competence and it mostly lines up with what Page admits to at HPSCI

      2 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 8
      Replying to @pwnallthethings @TCleveland4Real @MiekeEoyang

      Except that 1) it was publicly available and 2) it's still wrong, w/no evidence to back the Rosneft allegation.

      2 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 8
      Replying to @emptywheel @pwnallthethings and

      I mean, there's a ton I find interesting about the dossier, but that's largely about some timing issues and how it could be so hopelessly wrong on the digital stuff.

      2:19 PM - 8 Mar 2018
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        2. PostimusMaximus‏ @PostimusMaximus Mar 8
          Replying to @emptywheel @pwnallthethings and

          Schiff's memo seemed to imply the FBI had corroborated the Page part of the dossier. You could maybe argue it didn't corroborate SPECIFICALLY the Rosneft deal, but it would have had to at least corroborate the meeting of those specific Russians.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 8
          Replying to @PostimusMaximus @pwnallthethings and

          Sure. But Schiff's claims of corroboration are, in public form, not A = A. That is, not corroboration. Warner has said nothing has been corroborated (nor refuted), and he's more careful than Schiff is.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. PostimusMaximus‏ @PostimusMaximus Mar 8
          Replying to @emptywheel @pwnallthethings and

          If we pretend the dossier came out right now and is just a statement on what happened, instead of trying to view it as a predictive-document, it states quite a few things that seem to be correct. If you put out a doc saying Russia wanted to elect Trump. That is corroborated.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 8
          Replying to @PostimusMaximus @pwnallthethings and

          And then gets almost every detail wrong.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. PostimusMaximus‏ @PostimusMaximus Mar 8
          Replying to @emptywheel @pwnallthethings and

          I'm not saying the dossier will never get anything wrong. I'm saying its incorrect to claim nothing about it was corroborated. Either way its a tiny piece of the FBI/Mueller investigation and people focus on it too much on both sides.

          0 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
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