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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Elizabeth de la Vega‏ @Delavegalaw Mar 5

      Elizabeth de la Vega Retweeted Kyle Griffin

      We don't know if this is true. If it is, it would have been "use" immunity only.https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/970799933279191040 …

      Elizabeth de la Vega added,

      Kyle GriffinVerified account @kylegriffin1
      Sam Nunberg tells MSNBC that he was offered immunity by Robert Mueller's team.
      8 replies 18 retweets 62 likes
    2. Ira Goldman  🦆 🦆 🦆‏ @KDbyProxy Mar 5
      Replying to @Delavegalaw @emptywheel

      OK, but if you were his attorney, is there a way to prevent his testimony to Mueller's GJ from being used against him in a state prosecution?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 5
      Replying to @KDbyProxy @Delavegalaw

      What state charges? It's not even clear what legal risk he faces, aside from being one degree of separation from a conspiracy with Russia.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Elizabeth de la Vega‏ @Delavegalaw Mar 5
      Replying to @emptywheel @KDbyProxy

      I don't know what you are all talking about. Just explaining what "use" immunity means. There's no reason to be heavyhanded about Nunberg.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Ira Goldman  🦆 🦆 🦆‏ @KDbyProxy Mar 5
      Replying to @Delavegalaw @emptywheel

      My underlying question, for which I've been unable to find an answer: If the feds offer you use immunity, can you still refuse to testify (invoke your 5A rights) to a federal GJ w/o being held in contempt b/c the feds can't immunize you from state-law liability.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 5
      Replying to @KDbyProxy @Delavegalaw

      I believe so. Same reason a pardon doesn't help prevent testimony.

      5:43 PM - 5 Mar 2018
      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        1. Ira Goldman  🦆 🦆 🦆‏ @KDbyProxy Mar 5
          Replying to @emptywheel @Delavegalaw

          Ira Goldman  🦆 🦆 🦆 Retweeted Robert Barnes

          https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/970838920249446406 …

          Ira Goldman  🦆 🦆 🦆 added,

          Robert Barnes @Barnes_Law
          Yes, federal court can, and has, held immunized witnesses in contempt even when limited to use immunity and even though they cannot immunize against state charges. This defense -- fear of state charges -- is a viable defense, though. https://twitter.com/KDbyProxy/status/970837092841517056 …
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