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    1. Julie Laumann  🌎‏ @Otpor17 Feb 24

      The Nunes Nonsense is about to be definitively debunked. Democratic intelligence memo declassified, expected to be released shortlyhttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/democratic-intelligence-memo-expected-release-today-02-24-2018-live-updates/ …

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    2. Julie Laumann  🌎‏ @Otpor17 Feb 24

      2 weeks after Trump hypocritically blocked it, Democrats release rebutting Nunes' claims of FBI surveillance abuses in seeking to wiretap Carter Pagehttps://nyti.ms/2sSvJec 

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    3. Julie Laumann  🌎‏ @Otpor17 Feb 24

      Link to Democratic rebuttal memo: http://docs.house.gov/meetings/ig/ig00/20180205/106838/hmtg-115-ig00-20180205-sd002.pdf … Fact sheet outlining key points (h/t @LauraLitvan) #DemMemo #DemocraticMemopic.twitter.com/rAm0HiNh9D

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    4. Julie Laumann  🌎‏ @Otpor17 Feb 24

      Note that: 1) the nature of Steele's information (opposition research) was properly disclosed 2) the Steele dossier did not reach the FBI until more than 7 weeks after the FBI launched its counterintelligence investigation into Russian interference & links to Trump's teampic.twitter.com/7WO18WgzBS

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    5. Julie Laumann  🌎‏ @Otpor17 Feb 24

      Schiff memo reveals Joseph Mifsud specifically told Papadopoulos in late April that Russia would release Clinton emails to help the Trump campaign. As @emptywheel notes, this makes Donald Jr's June 9 "I love it" meeting even more damning #DemocraticMemo https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/02/24/schiff-memo-reveals-that-mifsud-specifically-told-papadopoulos-russia-would-release-hillary-emails-to-help-trump-campaign/ …pic.twitter.com/XRtGEhw3aR

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    6. outsh1ned‏ @outsh1ned Mar 3
      Replying to @Otpor17 @emptywheel

      Does it? Wouldn't it mean that a full month after a theorised emails release offer to the campaign, the campaign was unaware that was arranged and approached an unrelated matter as genuine, without the benefit of contacts to guide them?

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    7. Julie Laumann  🌎‏ @Otpor17 Mar 3
      Replying to @outsh1ned @emptywheel

      The "Ken Lay defense", though dubious, might have some merit if the June 9 meeting had not been arranged by Trump's business partner Aras Agalarov and attended by Ike Kaveladze, whom Trump had known for at least 3 years. This was not random.

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    8. outsh1ned‏ @outsh1ned Mar 3
      Replying to @Otpor17 @emptywheel

      The premise for the June 9 meeting was: 1. Russia had a lobbying topic 2. They did a press conf on it on May 19 3. The Trump camp needed a tipoff about month old RU news 4. They confused that with actual dirt. Does that sound like an org with Kremlin contacts/arrangements?

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 3
      Replying to @outsh1ned @Otpor17

      If you ignore the second part of the meeting I guess, the one with someone with direct ties to Putin.

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    10. outsh1ned‏ @outsh1ned Mar 3
      Replying to @emptywheel @Otpor17

      No, I'm including that. Do you have a working theory for how each of these events could plausibly involve real offers of HRC emails, yet: a- each involves having no contacts for that b- each is followed by still looking for that c- knowing there were no HRC emails throughout

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 3
      Replying to @outsh1ned @Otpor17

      Given that none of what you just said matches known reality, I'm not even sure how to respond, except to say you seem to be missing a whole slew of facts.

      3:30 PM - 3 Mar 2018
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        2. outsh1ned‏ @outsh1ned Mar 3
          Replying to @emptywheel @Otpor17

          That's an unconvincing cop-out. So unfortunately the March, April, May, June, July, Oct, Sept events referenced here need this secret reference to clue us into how none of these events predates/follows the others. Theoretical physics book is it?

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 3
          Replying to @outsh1ned @Otpor17

          Not a secret reference. You apparently have no clue what's in the public record.

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        4. outsh1ned‏ @outsh1ned Mar 3
          Replying to @emptywheel @Otpor17

          Let's chalk that up as a 'no' then. You don't have a theory for how this would plausibly work as a RU state offer in April. Bonus points for referring me to the public record for to a development you alone have hypothesised from tea leaf reading a redacted sentence & a tweet

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 3
          Replying to @outsh1ned @Otpor17

          I'm not even sure what youre suggesting the problem is, just that several of things you assert as true are in fact not true. So can you define the problem here, but do it with actual facts?

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        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 3
          Replying to @emptywheel @outsh1ned @Otpor17

          Let's start with the fact that you seem to have no fucking clue what universe of stolen documents include. None. Zero.

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        7. outsh1ned‏ @outsh1ned Mar 3
          Replying to @emptywheel @Otpor17

          It's a pretty simple question really. When you were speculating that both the Mat-Apr Mifsud contacts & June meeting both involved Hillary's emails & those were the same as the DNC emails, what about that made sense to you?

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        8. outsh1ned‏ @outsh1ned Mar 3
          Replying to @outsh1ned @emptywheel @Otpor17

          Is this your working theory of this plot? Apr - Russian govt offers emails Apr - Russian govt makes arrangements for public dump instead Jun - Meeting arranged for emails too Jul - DNC emails dump Jul-Sep - Does anyone have any lead on those emails, does anyone know any Russians

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        9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Mar 3
          Replying to @outsh1ned @Otpor17

          Wow. You're dumb. Dumbdumbdumbdumb. You don't understand thing one about what you're talking about.

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