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    1. Josh Campbell‏Verified account @joshscampbell Feb 26

      Honest questions for my legal eagles: * Where is the FISA court on the subject of competing public memos? * If the allegation is the FBI lied to the court, shouldn’t the proper venue for redress be the FISC? * Do you predict the co-equal judiciary will weigh in on all of this?

      3 replies 9 retweets 26 likes
    2. Steve Vladeck‏Verified account @steve_vladeck Feb 26
      Replying to @joshscampbell

      1) Silent, as I imagine it will remain. 2) It depends on whether, even if there was a misrepresentation (color me skeptical), it was material under Franks v. Delaware. If not, there’s nothing to remedy. 3) There’s neither a reason nor a mechanism for it to do so.

      5 replies 3 retweets 13 likes
    3. Mark S. Zaid‏Verified account @MarkSZaidEsq Feb 26
      Replying to @steve_vladeck @joshscampbell

      (1) Unfortunately silent. (2) If "lies" then redress would be with Court, although I do think there is an oversight role for Congress to play given some Committee access to underlying applications. (3) I don't see why FISC could/would not order DOJ/FBI to respond if desired

      3 replies 2 retweets 4 likes
    4. Mark S. Zaid‏Verified account @MarkSZaidEsq Feb 26
      Replying to @MarkSZaidEsq @steve_vladeck @joshscampbell

      My question is what role, if any, have one or more of the five amici curiae played in this entire process? Privately (unknown) or publicly (none that I know of). Is this not one of the envisioned independent critical roles?

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 26
      Replying to @MarkSZaidEsq @steve_vladeck @joshscampbell

      I've said this before, but I honestly believe this is where Collyer is totally inadequate as a presiding. Walton definitely and Bates probably would have weighed in by now. Collyer cares a lot less abt legitimacy of court.

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    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 26
      Replying to @emptywheel @MarkSZaidEsq and

      Moreover, if it were Walton you could be certain if there were a material misstatement he'd note that publicly and require correction. Collyer, not so much.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 26
      Replying to @emptywheel @MarkSZaidEsq and

      And of course Collyer violated spirit of USAF in not appointing an Amicus in 702 last year. No reason to believe she would here.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 26
      Replying to @emptywheel @MarkSZaidEsq and

      Related. https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/02/16/rosemary-collyer-moves-to-lock-down-the-fisa-court/ …

      6:50 PM - 26 Feb 2018
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