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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Feb 25
      Replying to @paulsurovell @emptywheel @AndrewMcCarthy_

      i've already answered that question repeatedly. i won't do so again.

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    2. Paul Surovell‏ @paulsurovell Feb 25
      Replying to @empiricalerror @emptywheel @AndrewMcCarthy_

      Actually you haven't. You haven't said where that document came from. Was it from the DNC? I'll help you -- Yes or No?

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    3. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Feb 25
      Replying to @paulsurovell @emptywheel @AndrewMcCarthy_

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      maybe re-read your own crap before you dig deeper. https://twitter.com/paulsurovell/status/967945282955640832 …

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    4. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror Feb 25
      Replying to @empiricalerror @paulsurovell and

      because, yes, it makes a difference where they came from.

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    5. Paul Surovell‏ @paulsurovell Feb 25
      Replying to @empiricalerror @emptywheel @AndrewMcCarthy_

      So maybe they are DNC docs posted in June? FWIW maybe it's not "cool," but the 2 of u should learn how to discuss w/o name-calling.

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    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 26
      Replying to @paulsurovell @empiricalerror @AndrewMcCarthy_

      Paul, here's what happened. Because a RU persona said the docs were from DNC everyone just assumed they were. W/o thinking why he might have said so. Since then evidence (incl Podesta's own statements) should have led people to realize that was wrong.

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    7. Paul Surovell‏ @paulsurovell Feb 26
      Replying to @emptywheel @empiricalerror @AndrewMcCarthy_

      (a) I'm not interested in it being RU, I find Binney/VIPS position most convincing (b) I conceded the June issue early on, but u pushed it as a "gotcha" so I played along, expecting to reach closure, something like what u just posted, altho I'd also expect references (cont'd)

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    8. Paul Surovell‏ @paulsurovell Feb 26
      Replying to @paulsurovell @emptywheel and

      Dave's reference was speculative, his own view. (c) DNC docs were leaked in June - right? (d) DNC docs incl emails were leaked in July (assume we agree). But ssue I raised was were these *Hillary* emails or *DNC* emails? I asked u if *Hillary* emails were leaked in July (cont'd)

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 26
      Replying to @paulsurovell @empiricalerror @AndrewMcCarthy_

      And no. You raised June, not July (which is the correct release, given that it followed the June 9 meeting where Russians laid out a quid pro quo). Which is important bc the June releases were are not identifiably DNC emails.

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    10. Paul Surovell‏ @paulsurovell Feb 26
      Replying to @emptywheel @empiricalerror @AndrewMcCarthy_

      I raised June "emails" and then I corrected myself to say "docs." Are u saying DNC docs were not "hacked" in June? Doesn't matter bec irrelevant to my point of impact of Dem memo on Mifsud-Papadopoulos theory -- which are trying to avoid by making issue of what happened in June

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 26
      Replying to @paulsurovell @empiricalerror @AndrewMcCarthy_

      Not clear when the hacks at DNC ended. But you're lost. So long as there are emails from other (unidentified) sources among first releases, your point abt DNC is totally, hopelessly, off point.

      5:17 PM - 26 Feb 2018
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