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Replying to @emptywheel @ggreenwald
You were saying that the reason the amount to which Facebook has thus far (begrudgingly) confessed receiving is highly relevant is because if you were too look at the digital organizing component more broadly you'd need to separate out the intra-Russian component.
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Replying to @jeffhauser @ggreenwald
And how does that stat disprove that?
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Replying to @emptywheel @ggreenwald
It shows that the Lakhta digital troll effort (think "earned media" vs. paid) DWARFED their ad effort, confirming my view that the paltry amount on FB was *seeding* rather than persuasion.
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OK. How are you separating out the US part of Lakhta?
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Replying to @emptywheel @ggreenwald
Maybe my assumption about the indictment is wrong -- I thought they were focusing their budgetary figures on the TRANSLATOR program but maybe I am wrong. Nonetheless, 90 person TRANSLATOR team is much more significant than the Facebook ads that FB has so far acknowledged.
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Replying to @jeffhauser @ggreenwald
It's not. That's global, including RU, which is why I raised that. But now you're treating TRANSLATOR as exclusively FB, not FB plus Twitter plus everything else. I think Twitter far too often gets a pass as FB gets all the attention, FWIW.
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Replying to @emptywheel @ggreenwald
For sure -- look, it's even Tumblr: https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/russian-trolls-ran-wild-on-tumblr-and-the-company-refuses?utm_term=.woNpA8woOA#.uxyYdB9qJd … My point on FB is that the begrudging FB admission produced the first batch of IRA accounts which have then been used across Pinterest, Twitter, Youtube, etc... (1/2)
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Due to my ex ante views of Facebook, their market scale (Twitter & Snap are teetering under FB's assault in ways that pique my interest as former DOJ antitrust lawyer), and import of platform I use them for synecdoche re social media writ large. Youtube also key.
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I think that's problematic. In part bc they still function differently, in part bc Twitter has more "need" to permit bots now. In part bc however begrudgingly, FB has still been more transparent than the others.
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Replying to @emptywheel @ggreenwald
I know you have some sources so maybe my cynicism is wrong, but I am 100% skeptical that after taking 9 months to acknowledge ads bought *in rubles from St. Petersburg might be evidence of Russian interference,* Facebook is now telling the whole story.
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Replying to @jeffhauser @ggreenwald
What took them 9 months was doing additional analysis to find all the fake users. It took them 5 months to admit being used, both of which still beat Twitter, which was almost certainly a bigger problem, by a good bit.
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