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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 18

    Hmmm. 🤔 Maybe this claim is why Mueller's not making promises in writing. http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-rick-gates-plea-deal-20180218-story.html …pic.twitter.com/plpQmsmeDp

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      2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 18

        Here's why I say this: 1) Story is surely sourced to Gates' lawyer. Guy negotiated plea w/o getting any sentencing info agreed to? Why would Mueller do that? 2) Maybe they don't trust Gates is being totally honest yet. So Gates might get caught in a lie and...

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 18

        Here's the other part of the story I find odd. Gates is taking a huge risk here. Maybe that's why the lawyers who're trying to ditch Gates wanted to ditch him.pic.twitter.com/7UPZehsRWw

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      4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 18

        Remember, Manafort forwarded Papadopoulos email to Gates saying they had to avoid sending signals. https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/10/30/the-footnote-clearly-shows-manafort-was-hiding-willingness-to-reach-out-to-russia/ …pic.twitter.com/OxgB7lXUJM

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      2. Stanley Cohen‏ @StanleyCohenLaw Feb 18
        Replying to @emptywheel

        As you know if and when there is a plea agreement and an expectation of a 5-K letter, the agreement will, if nothing else, have generic language about it as a possibility.

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 18
        Replying to @StanleyCohenLaw

        Yeah, it's this part that seems odd to me.pic.twitter.com/zeATKV6LC7

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      4. Stanley Cohen‏ @StanleyCohenLaw Feb 18
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Though rare I've had these in agreements to give clients cover until the very last possible minute. Ultimately, as you know, it matter not as the 5-K can be filed at any time right up to sentence and a Rule 35 motion immediately thereafter.

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      1. MJR jnr‏ @onetruebritt Feb 18
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Gates was the point person on event planning for the inaugeration. $26M went to a company run by a personal friend of Melania. Coincidence... perhaps

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      1.  🌲 🌲 Andy from Oregon  🌲 🌲‏ @AndrewFmOregon Feb 18
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I wonder if Gates' original lawyers asked to bail out because they knew he was hatching a plea deal that might be dishonest? Thus the mistrust from Mueller as you suggest...

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      1.  💀 damned sinker  💀‏ @dansinker Feb 18
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I mean isn't the point of this plea to turn the screws on Manafort who, in turn, could theoretically turn the screws on Trump?

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      1. Terry Banet‏ @tebsf Feb 18
        Replying to @emptywheel

        If fighting is potentially going to bankrupt him, seems smarter to plead and get it over with.

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      1. DK‏ @KierkeStruck Feb 18
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I doubt Gates was completely kept out of the loop. Maybe he wants to lay out bread crumbs w/o directly implicating himself as complicit in colluding with Russia

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      1. NLK‏ @NLindenkoprowsk Feb 19
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Others have theorized that Gates flips on Manafort causing Manafort to cave and flip on the Trump family.

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      2. Johnny GILly‏ @swfiua Feb 18
        Replying to @emptywheel

        note also that Mueller has a bit of time on his side. No rush here, not like the statute of limitations is an issue.

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      3. Johnny GILly‏ @swfiua Feb 18
        Replying to @swfiua @emptywheel

        slowly, slowly catch monkey

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      1. Greg Jacobs‏ @GJacobs26 Feb 18
        Replying to @emptywheel

        If Gates doesn’t have the goods on Trump directly, this Daily Beast reporting from June may explain why - reportedly, Trump “hates” him. https://amp.thedailybeast.com/despite-russia-controversy-paul-manaforts-partner-is-still-lurking-around-the-white-house?__twitter_impression=true …

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      1. Zach‏ @maestro876 Feb 18
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I feel like that quote is spin and probably not true at all.

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      1. Puns N' Roses‏ @gthanku Feb 18
        Replying to @emptywheel

        if Gates fully cooperates with Mueller re all he has on Manafort including testifying against him, does/could that translate to substantially more prison time for Manafort or negating the Trump pardon option? If so, it ups the chances of Manafort flipping.

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      1.  🍿Justice is Served‏ @pleasesaveour Feb 18
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Gates might not have it but Manafort does. Mueller is tightening the screws, and betting on the flip would be my guess.

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