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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 12

      Graham and Grassley Are Seeing Christopher Steele's Ghost Where Mike Flynn Lurks https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/02/12/graham-and-grassley-are-seeing-christopher-steeles-ghost-where-mike-flynn-lurks/ …

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    2. jack‏ @axre91a Feb 12
      Replying to @emptywheel

      1) I think you're exactly right about the January 5th meeting being about Flynn and likely nothing to do with Steele, however I think you're ascribing completely benign motivations behind the Flynn operation.

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    3. jack‏ @axre91a Feb 12
      Replying to @axre91a @emptywheel

      2) Unless Yates/comey were pursuing a very strained interpretation of the antiquated Logan Act, there's really no reason for them to have gone after Flynn in the first place.

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    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 12
      Replying to @axre91a

      They weren't, yet, "going after Flynn." They were trying to understand the motivations of an adversary that had just carried out an attack on us. You think that's abusive?

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    5. jack‏ @axre91a Feb 12
      Replying to @emptywheel

      By questioning the incoming NSA about conversations they knew through the surveillance weren't illegal or relevant to the Russian attack? Possibly abusive, considering Flynn and McCabe's animosity.

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    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 12
      Replying to @axre91a

      They didn't know they weren't illegal. As I've pointed out if they were payoff for a quid pro quo, they were the absolutely illegal. You don't want FBI to investigate if people are spying for Russia?

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    7. jack‏ @axre91a Feb 12
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Not if it's based on Clinton paid for opposition research from a foreign ex spy. (again, what's the basis to investigate a quid pro quo deal, other than the Steele dossier? Mere speculation doesn't cut it)

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 12
      Replying to @axre91a

      You want us to stop chasing spies if our suspicion about it comes from intelligence our closest foreign partners give us? Take a step back and think about what you're really saying.

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        1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 12
          Replying to @emptywheel @axre91a

          And there was abundant reason to raise questions about sanctions just on the public statements of Trump's people. Remember: Carter Page was suspected of being a Russian spy going back to 2013.

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        1. jack‏ @axre91a Feb 12
          Replying to @emptywheel

          I have grave reservations of foreign spies influencing FBI investigations into Presidential candidates.

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        2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 12
          Replying to @axre91a

          Know where this dossier strategy came from? Paul Manafort. Know what? He is a guy who hid that he was working for Russia. That bug you at all?

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        3. jack‏ @axre91a Feb 12
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Zero proof Manafort worked for Russia (nor does Mueller suggest he did)... His indictment is based on money laundering re his pro-eu/western alignment lobbying of Ukraine.

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        4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 12
          Replying to @axre91a

          His indictment is based partly on that, yes. Are you aware that RU has been intervening in Ukr events of late? Ever heard of Oleg Deripaska?

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        5. jack‏ @axre91a Feb 12
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Russia has been intervening in Ukraine since Catherine the Great (btw screw them, leave Ukraine alone)... Yes, he's the Russian oligarch whose agent, Mark Warner was in contact with to secretely get in contact with Steele.

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        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 12
          Replying to @axre91a

          Also to get in touch with Deripaska, to testify. Deripaska refused to do so w/o immunity. I wonder why?

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        7. jack‏ @axre91a Feb 12
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Idk, but if it has to do with Navalny , I'm skeptical.

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        8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 12
          Replying to @axre91a

          The testimony would have pertained to the Russian involvement in US election. Did Navalny run in the US?

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