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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 8
      Replying to @AaronFown @davidsanger

      Why do you think the DNC server is the important one?

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    2. jack‏ @axre91a Feb 8
      Replying to @emptywheel @AaronFown @davidsanger

      Well, it was the one that was hacked, which started the initial claims of Russian election interference. This claim was made by Dmitry Alperovich. Where has he been lately??

      4 replies 0 retweets 18 likes
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 8
      Replying to @axre91a @AaronFown @davidsanger

      Sorry. You're in error. When you understand that error we can reconvene.

      3 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    4. jack‏ @axre91a Feb 8
      Replying to @emptywheel @AaronFown @davidsanger

      I will pay a 100 dollars to your favorite charity if you can cite any story during the 2016 election which cites Russian interference before the June 14th WaPo story, where Alperovich blamed Russia for dnc hacking... It all started with Crowdstrike.https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-government-hackers-penetrated-dnc-stole-opposition-research-on-trump/2016/06/14/cf006cb4-316e-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html?utm_term=.00fd8f081aaf …

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 8
      Replying to @axre91a @AaronFown @davidsanger

      You're suggesting hacks only start when the WaPo publishes it? Think that one through before you answer, bc you seem to be struggling.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    6. jack‏ @axre91a Feb 8
      Replying to @emptywheel @AaronFown @davidsanger

      No, I'm not... You're misreading what I said. I understand that APT-28 infiltrated the dnc months before, and APT-29 came infiltrated Sept. 2015 (according to crowdstrike).... I'm saying that these claims by Alperovich (June 14) were the first of Russian interference of 2016.

      2 replies 0 retweets 15 likes
    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 8
      Replying to @axre91a @AaronFown @davidsanger

      They were the first public notice. But you're suggesting that hacks that were happening in those same two time periods didn't result in leaked documents--and leaked docs FIRST. That's where you're wrong.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    8. jack‏ @axre91a Feb 8
      Replying to @emptywheel @AaronFown @davidsanger

      "they were the first of public notice" - thank you for acknowledging my point - that this story was the initial claim of Russian election interference... The rest you just said isn't what I suggested, nor does make much sense.

      1 reply 0 retweets 15 likes
    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 8
      Replying to @axre91a @AaronFown @davidsanger

      But that's so besides the point as to be fucking idiotic. Trying to prove (even assuming you were right) what happened w/DNC hack when those aren't the emails that matter most is a sideshow.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    10. jack‏ @axre91a Feb 8
      Replying to @emptywheel @AaronFown @davidsanger

      There are other emails, besides the hacked dnc emails which showed a bias against Bernie Sanders, which matter more?? This is what started the Russian interference claim!!

      1 reply 0 retweets 16 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 8
      Replying to @axre91a @AaronFown @davidsanger

      False. Totally and utterly false. Again, when you learn the basic details here, perhaps we could have a more productive conversation.

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        2. jack‏ @axre91a Feb 8
          Replying to @emptywheel @AaronFown @davidsanger

          @DropTha_Mic25 @chiIIum @kevinh07 @with_integrity

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        3. Adam Carter‏ @with_integrity Feb 9
          Replying to @axre91a @emptywheel and

          I've a disinclination to get involved as it's clear different people have a different perspective of what is and isn't important and/or relevant and each person may be considering a different range/scope of issues/topics surrounding the topic of the DNCLeaks, etc.

          2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
        4. Adam Carter‏ @with_integrity Feb 9
          Replying to @with_integrity @axre91a and

          but fwiw.. Podesta leaks extremely likely from phishing. DNCLeaks probably an insider, no evidence of malware accessing mailboxes or relaying data despite Falcon install. DNC hosts wiped ages ago but not reqd to justify doubts on attribution Bern bias:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/24/here-are-the-latest-most-damaging-things-in-the-dncs-leaked-emails/ …

          4 replies 4 retweets 17 likes
        5. Steel123‏ @Southpaw246 Feb 9
          Replying to @with_integrity @axre91a and

          Even though servers may have been wiped clean (yes, like with a cloth), all the text messages currently in hand (not yet shared with the public), and those being requested by Congress may contain the smoking gun of the scam details. We'll see.

          2 replies 1 retweet 15 likes
        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 9
          Replying to @Southpaw246 @with_integrity and

          Again, you guys are all so cute imagining you even know all the servers in question.

          6 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
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        8. Carlito Mariategui‏ @88softaIlherita Feb 9
          Replying to @DropTha_Mic25 @emptywheel and

          Does Empty have access to forensic evidence that we cute people don't? Please dish...

          1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
        9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 9
          Replying to @88softaIlherita @DropTha_Mic25 and

          I do, at least, have the competence to think about all the servers we know were involved. Maybe start there.

          6 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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        2. jack‏ @axre91a Feb 8
          Replying to @emptywheel @AaronFown @davidsanger

          @emptywheel I suppose you're done here. My argument was simple, yet it should be significant - the initial claim of Russian election interference came from Alperovich (crowdstrike) re dnc hacking. Why isn't this discussed more??

          8 replies 56 retweets 99 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 9
          Replying to @axre91a @AaronFown @davidsanger

          Again, you're talking ONLY public claims. You're so hung up on what YOU get to see which is ... not reality. At all.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        4. SIR CRAM-A-LOT‏ @Noncon49285 Feb 9
          Replying to @emptywheel @axre91a and

          SIR CRAM-A-LOT Retweeted

          Here’s real research and not “we know” BS. https://twitter.com/droptha_mic25/status/951514214530781185 …

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        5. Pam Riste‏ @olystubbies44 Feb 9
          Replying to @Noncon49285 @emptywheel and

          empty wheel will never read @DropTha_Mic25 !! Lola breaks it all of the way down and it would be way over empty head's capacity.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        6. Pam Riste‏ @olystubbies44 Feb 9
          Replying to @olystubbies44 @Noncon49285 and

          Pam Riste Retweeted

          This tweet alone squashes the narrative they are clinging to if they read any of @with_integrity Adam kills it on the technical side. https://twitter.com/DropTha_Mic25/status/951514221912707072 …

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        7. SIR CRAM-A-LOT‏ @Noncon49285 Feb 9
          Replying to @olystubbies44 @emptywheel and

          Nope. Too much truth and not “mah feelings”.

          0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
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        1. IrishMom‏ @GuinnBonnie Feb 9
          Replying to @emptywheel @axre91a and

          Tsk, tsk, doesnt pay to be arrogant. Study up.

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        1.  ❌The One & Only Lady Rac80  ❌ 🇺🇸‏ @rac80 Feb 9
          Replying to @emptywheel @axre91a and

          Read Shattered sometime! Very illuminating. 😎

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        2. jack‏ @axre91a Feb 8
          Replying to @emptywheel @AaronFown @davidsanger

          Please inform me... Guccifer 2.0 (whoever that was) leaked dnc docs immediately after the June 14 story (no emails). Subsequently, in July wikileaks releases actual dnc emails (not just docs)... What emails mattered more, as you claimed, regarding Russian interference??

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. runtodaylight‏ @runtodaylight Feb 8
          Replying to @axre91a @emptywheel and

          How much is remedial Mueller investigation education worth to you? https://www.emptywheel.net/support/ 

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. jack‏ @axre91a Feb 8
          Replying to @runtodaylight @emptywheel and

          Is this the charity I'm expected to donate to, because I think I won the debate??

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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