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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 6

      This is nice and possibly even true but totally inconsistent with the content of the dossier at that point. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hero-or-hired-gun-how-a-british-former-spy-became-a-flash-point-in-the-russia-investigation/2018/02/06/94ea5158-0795-11e8-8777-2a059f168dd2_story.html …pic.twitter.com/Oj5z8iHjPx

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    2. James DeSarno‏ @j_desarno Feb 6
      Replying to @emptywheel

      What is consistent are the fresh attacks on Steele himself. I'm seeing little to no attacks on the Intel.

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    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 6
      Replying to @j_desarno

      On the point of intel on hacking, the dossier is abysmal. And I've made that attack repeatedly. Which is my point.

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    4. James DeSarno‏ @j_desarno Feb 6
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Interesting. I'll re-read.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 6
      Replying to @j_desarno

      See the second section of this. https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/01/29/on-disinformation-and-the-dossier/ …

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        2. James DeSarno‏ @j_desarno Feb 6
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Read now: Steele entered the picture post hacking in the midst of the data dumps. As with anything involving Russia i'm sure there were active measures happening. I wouldn't discount Steele as a rube in his reporting of raw intel. My larger observation is GOP attacking the man.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 6
          Replying to @j_desarno

          "In the midst of" is a key part of the timeline no one wants to nail down. https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/10/25/democrats-continue-to-score-massive-own-goals-with-steele-dossier/ … In any case, virtually every defense of the dossier ignores that G2.0 was releasing docs before the first dossier report said kompromat = old intercepts.

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        4. James DeSarno‏ @j_desarno Feb 6
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Sure; however, that fits with active measures of obfuscation. From a Trump POV this is all about money. It’s starting to look like this is a collective concern for the GOP.

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 6
          Replying to @j_desarno

          To be clear: Dossier defenders are obfuscating key timeline details. But I agree that seeding disinfo to lull Dems would also be consistent. But it hasn't been considered seriously enough.

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        6. James DeSarno‏ @j_desarno Feb 6
          Replying to @emptywheel

          I think the issue with the dossier is most people do not understand the meaning of raw intel. The objections raised have argued details rather than the macro implications.

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        7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 6
          Replying to @j_desarno

          If none--zero--of the underlying claims can be confirmed the macro still holds? I think the macro is generally right. But you cannot get there via details none of which have been corroborated and many of which are outright wrong.

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        8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 6
          Replying to @emptywheel

          But, if so, that makes it all the more masterful piece of disinfo (if that's what it is, and I increasingly think it is).

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        9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Feb 6
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Which, btw, is utterly consistent with what I believe I know about other parts of this op.

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