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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Kron‏ @Kronykal Jan 29
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Well it helped when he got his information from...Russians... It’s fascinating to me that hatred for Trump has made people absolutely support this terrible behavior. It’s shameful.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 29
      Replying to @Kronykal

      Surely you're not suggesting I support the way the dossier was used? https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/10/25/democrats-continue-to-score-massive-own-goals-with-steele-dossier/ …

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Kron‏ @Kronykal Jan 29
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Yeah. I absolutely am. It doesn’t matter what you wrote on your blog. You’re defending it right now. That kinda makes you hypocritical.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 29
      Replying to @Kronykal

      No. I'm saying people who ONLY NOW have discovered problems with how FISA launders dodgy intel are obviously 1) ignorant and/or 2) partisan opportunists.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 29
      Replying to @emptywheel @Kronykal

      And once I pointed that out to you you claimed I was defending the dossier, which couldn't be more hysterical.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Kron‏ @Kronykal Jan 29
      Replying to @emptywheel

      An entire narrative swept the country over a fictional dossier. Americans were spied on. It was used by an admin to target people, politically. People need to go to prison over this.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 29
      Replying to @Kronykal

      You're arguing that a good faith belief, based on far more than the dossier, that Russians are recruiting people is political? Your worries about foreign recruiting turn off during elections?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Kron‏ @Kronykal Jan 29
      Replying to @emptywheel

      No I never actually had hysterics over it in the first place. Welcome to reality. It’s been going on since politics were invented. I’m much more concerned with the weaponization of our IC and LE for politics. That’s a big problem.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 29
      Replying to @Kronykal

      No. You're concerned that bc some of the people Trump employed were of pre-existing (by years!) CI interest, the subsequent investigation affected those same people post-campaign.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Kron‏ @Kronykal Jan 29
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Now you’re telling me what I’m concerned about? How arrogant.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 29
      Replying to @Kronykal

      Well, you're misportraying what actually happened. I'm more fact-checking you than telling you what you're concerned about. Perhaps you're concerned bc you misunderstand dates? Or love foreign spies? I don't know why you're concerned.

      8:00 AM - 29 Jan 2018
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        2. Kron‏ @Kronykal Jan 29
          Replying to @emptywheel

          I’m fascinated with how sure you are that you’re correct. What will you do if you’re not? Because the facts aren’t actually known yet. Will you still stubbornly insist you’re right?

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 29
          Replying to @Kronykal

          Do you admit that you can subtract 90 + 90 days from April 27 in reliable fashion?

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        4. Kron‏ @Kronykal Jan 29
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Ok. I’ve reflected. Now, to me it’s quite clear that the IC, the FBI and the Justice department were weaponized against Trump for political reasons. There’s as much evidence of that as there is that it started before that. I’d like to know the truth. Wouldn’t you?

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 29
          Replying to @Kronykal

          You're suggesting the FBI that 1) made comments about Hillary of the type specifically prohibited on July 5 2) sent another letter of the type prohibited on October 27 BECAUSE so many Agents were already leaking was weaponized against TRUMP? Are you sure?

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        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 29
          Replying to @emptywheel @Kronykal

          I happen to think the investigation into Hillary's server was legit. In the same way I think the investigation into Trump's targeting by RU is legit. I've got Qs abt both, but far less burning Qs abt the Trump one.

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