That’s kind of irrelevant if it was used to justify surveillance.
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Replying to @Kronykal
I'm sure you, of all people, know how often whackjob consultants get to feed FISA on the way in AND testify in court on the way out for Muslim defendants. Did you complain then?
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Replying to @emptywheel
Well we never knew before, now did we. And in any case it’s a violation of civil rights and needs to stop. Period. You can’t just make things up to justify spying on American citizens, or base an entire investigation on madenip things. Just no.
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Replying to @Kronykal
Sure we did. Defense attorneys raise it all the time and I've heard it from former LE. This is not about "making stuff up." It's about the standards for privatized intelligence, which on CT side are far worse than Christopher Steele. At least Steele speaks Russian.
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Replying to @emptywheel
Well it helped when he got his information from...Russians... It’s fascinating to me that hatred for Trump has made people absolutely support this terrible behavior. It’s shameful.
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Replying to @Kronykal
Surely you're not suggesting I support the way the dossier was used? https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/10/25/democrats-continue-to-score-massive-own-goals-with-steele-dossier/ …
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Replying to @emptywheel
Yeah. I absolutely am. It doesn’t matter what you wrote on your blog. You’re defending it right now. That kinda makes you hypocritical.
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Replying to @Kronykal
No. I'm saying people who ONLY NOW have discovered problems with how FISA launders dodgy intel are obviously 1) ignorant and/or 2) partisan opportunists.
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Replying to @emptywheel @Kronykal
Laundering dodgy intel? I take it you don't share Rangappa's conviction that FISA's intel corroboration process is rock solid?
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Replying to @OuijaForestCat @Kronykal
There is a lot of corroboration. But the standards for "intel from consultants and/or foreign partners" is not what it would be in a criminal case, by design.
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But her points about reapplication are ones I made here: https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/01/29/carter-page-did-not-need-to-be-a-spy-to-be-targeted-under-fisa/ …
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