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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings Jan 25

      P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡ Retweeted Reuters World

      Great worked example of the prove it trap in action. 1) what info does this report give away? 2) what ops might be burned by this? Should we care? 3) who is persuaded by this who wasn't persuaded last week? 4) what do we learn?https://twitter.com/ReutersWorld/status/956654692452438016?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E0 …

      P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡ added,

      Reuters WorldVerified account @ReutersWorld
      Dutch intelligence agency spied on Russian hacking group: media http://reut.rs/2BtH0AK 
      14 replies 61 retweets 171 likes
    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 25
      Replying to @pwnallthethings

      Actually hearing a lot of people saying this is persuasive.

      1 reply 2 retweets 15 likes
    3. Jim White‏ @JimWhiteGNV Jan 25
      Replying to @emptywheel @pwnallthethings

      It made me fully convinced. I had always worried about the ability to spoof actions. But if Dutch were in Cozy Bear network and saw attack go out in real time, that's actual evidence that is convincing.

      2 replies 3 retweets 15 likes
    4. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings Jan 25
      Replying to @JimWhiteGNV @emptywheel

      It was widely publicized the DNC hack used APT28 infrastructure for control. This report adds nothing other than burning sources and capabilities which are now presumably gone forever.

      4 replies 3 retweets 21 likes
    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 25
      Replying to @pwnallthethings @JimWhiteGNV

      Yes. To you it adds nothing. But others who don't have your institutional, um, faith don't find all that conclusive (& I bet a few details will still surprise you), but this is actually still better evidence (tho against 29, not 28).

      5 replies 2 retweets 18 likes
    6. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings Jan 25
      Replying to @emptywheel @JimWhiteGNV

      If by institutional faith you mean overwhelming consensus of the infosec community, sure. You don't need to trust the IC for the attribution. And losing coverage of hard targets is a high price to pay to persuade folks who haven't paid attention to the already public data.

      4 replies 0 retweets 19 likes
    7. Katie Kearns‏ @kkearns Jan 25
      Replying to @pwnallthethings @emptywheel @JimWhiteGNV

      what about someone who doesn't understand computers and works at walmart

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 25
      Replying to @kkearns @pwnallthethings @JimWhiteGNV

      Imagining a security camera catching someone in the act is probably gonna be pretty familiar!

      3:51 PM - 25 Jan 2018
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