emptywheel

It was widely publicized the DNC hack used APT28 infrastructure for control. This report adds nothing other than burning sources and capabilities which are now presumably gone forever.

Yes. To you it adds nothing. But others who don't have your institutional, um, faith don't find all that conclusive (& I bet a few details will still surprise you), but this is actually still better evidence (tho against 29, not 28).

If by institutional faith you mean overwhelming consensus of the infosec community, sure. You don't need to trust the IC for the attribution. And losing coverage of hard targets is a high price to pay to persuade folks who haven't paid attention to the already public data.

Matt. You're banging the table again. You didn't need to convince me. And you banging the table is not going to help me convince others, to the extent I see the need to.

I'm not trying to convince you.

If you're trying to convince *anyone* banging the table is not going to work. This is a different kind of evidence and I'm seeing plenty of people respond to it. Maybe just sit back and listen and figure out why that is for future reference?

seems important to me that this story was broken by dutch media, not by US media seeking to win over dug-in Russia hack skeptics. This isn't US media burning an intel partner to win over MAGA heads.

It may be Dutch media signaling to USIC that if they don't protect Dutch equities (cough) in the Nunes memo, intel sharing will go dark.