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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 21

      I was interviewed at length for this Glenn Greenwald piece. I spoke abt gender. I also compared Greenwald's skepticism of the RU story w/my increasing focus on it, w/o losing focus on civil liberties. Count how many women quoted in it.http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/01/glenn-greenwald-russia-investigation.html?utm_campaign=nym&utm_medium=s1&utm_source=tw …

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 21

      People NYMag thought had more pertinent insight into Glenn Greenwald than me: Ben Wittes AND Stewart Baker, Tucker Carlson. Apparently, no women -- not even Laura Poitras or Betsy Reed -- have anything interesting to say about Glenn Greenwald.

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        1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 21

          FWIW, one of the things I said in the interview was that I thought Glenn had an important point about not just taking RU claims w/o scrutiny. But said diff bt Glenn and I is that I have looked at all the evidence closely, probably more so than anyone else.

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        2. Glenn Greenwald‏Verified account @ggreenwald Jan 21
          Replying to @emptywheel

          I'll bet the editors were quite active & interventionist in the story. The omission you cite is especially notable because most of the key people in my journalism career have been women: Digby, Jane Hamsher, Joan Walsh, Janine Gibson, Betsy & Laura, etc.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 21
          Replying to @ggreenwald

          Do you know what other women were interviewed?

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        4. Glenn Greenwald‏Verified account @ggreenwald Jan 21
          Replying to @emptywheel

          No, I don't know who they interviewed beyond who is quoted. I think he spent a day or so at TI's office and presumably spoke to people there, but I'm not sure who. But as I said, except for Snowden & Jeremy, just about every key person in my journalism career was a woman.

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 21
          Replying to @ggreenwald

          Yup, and frankly I think Susan Hennessey would be more interesting to hear from on you than Wittes and Baker, given that she was at NSA during Snowden response.

          1 reply 3 retweets 29 likes
        6. Glenn Greenwald‏Verified account @ggreenwald Jan 21
          Replying to @emptywheel

          It's a remarkable omission and was one of the first things I noticed when I was done reading it.

          0 replies 3 retweets 23 likes
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        2. Dan Roosien‏ @droosien Jan 21
          Replying to @emptywheel

          I nevertheless found the piece quite illuminating, capturing both what I agree with him on and where I think his focus is misplaced. But including those you note were left out could have made it that much more interesting.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 21
          Replying to @droosien

          I'm just frankly stunned zero women were quoted. Not Poitras? Betsy Reed about the Reality Winner story?

          1 reply 0 retweets 14 likes
        4. Dan Roosien‏ @droosien Jan 21
          Replying to @emptywheel

          I would still love to hear you compare Greenwald's skepticism with your increasing focus on it. I tweeted @jeremyscahill that he should have you guys debate each other on it.

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        5. Dan Roosien‏ @droosien Jan 21
          Replying to @droosien @emptywheel @jeremyscahill

          As a side note, I found the discussion with you and John Sipher surprisingly non-confrontational.

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        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 21
          Replying to @droosien @jeremyscahill

          I'm hoping Jeremy releases the entire recording. It was very non-confrontational.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        7. Dan Roosien‏ @droosien Jan 21
          Replying to @emptywheel @jeremyscahill

          Did you mean to say that it was confrontational?

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        8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 21
          Replying to @droosien @jeremyscahill

          No. The contrary. Even when I talked abt possibility dossier includes disinfo.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Dan Roosien‏ @droosien Jan 21
          Replying to @emptywheel @jeremyscahill

          Meaning he conceded a lot of the criticisms you've made of his writing on the dossier?

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        2. Brad‏ @bradiscranky Jan 21
          Replying to @emptywheel

          I'd have loved to have heard from Reality Winner, if she's allowed outside contact.

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 21
          Replying to @bradiscranky

          Good point. Govt is generally preventing the press to have any access to her, though one did do an interesting profile.

          0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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        2.  ⚡️Kathy E Gill‏ @kegill Jan 21
          Replying to @emptywheel

          <smh> Just saying ...pic.twitter.com/FfKYAksdEH

          3 replies 8 retweets 39 likes
        3. Jon Pincus‏ @jdp23 Jan 21
          Replying to @kegill @emptywheel

          nice graphic ... worth a thousand words!

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        4.  ⚡️Kathy E Gill‏ @kegill Jan 22
          Replying to @jdp23

          Thx! How the heck are you?

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        5. Jon Pincus‏ @jdp23 Jan 22
          Replying to @kegill

          Jon Pincus Retweeted Jon Pincus

          good, except for internet problems in SF :-| https://twitter.com/jdp23/status/955497958488723456 … and you?

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          Jon Pincus @jdp23
          Replying to @jdp23 @sonic
          @EFF I know Sonic scores great on the "Who Has Your Back" metrics - it's why we signed up with them - but when they leave their individual customers hanging like this, they're not really a good choice. Maybe add another column to your rankings? cc @Sheeyahshee @RaineyReitman
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        6.  ⚡️Kathy E Gill‏ @kegill Jan 22
          Replying to @jdp23

          Eeek. That sucketh. Finished my radiation treatment late last month. Energy is much better! Overbooked teaching this quarter. 😱

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