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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. the grugq‏ @thegrugq Jan 20

      the grugq Retweeted John Garnaut

      If russian assets got rolled up, it would be incredibly bad internal security if it was the same guy who sold out the Chinese assets. A huge failure of compartmentation to have one guy know 20+ assets in a country plus multiple assets in another hard target country.https://twitter.com/jgarnaut/status/954554874686980096 …

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      John Garnaut @jgarnaut
      "Some 20 CIA sources were executed by the Chinese government, two former officials said — a higher number of dead than initially reported ...Then an unknown number of Russian assets also disappeared, sources say." https://www.nbcnews.com/news/china/cia-china-turncoat-lee-may-have-compromised-u-s-spies-n839316 …
      15 replies 38 retweets 91 likes
    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 20
      Replying to @thegrugq

      It's the tech, not the names. The tech betrayed assets in another country as well.

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    3. the grugq‏ @thegrugq Jan 20
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Yeah. That’s the story they floating. But they say the tech was broken with the aid of a field officer who left in 2007 and it was sufficient to compromise assets in Russia ~5yrs later?

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 20
      Replying to @thegrugq

      I'll write why there's abundant evidence to support that later.

      6:41 AM - 20 Jan 2018
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        1. the grugq‏ @thegrugq Jan 20
          Replying to @emptywheel

          There are more OSINT sources? Looking forward to it.

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        2. Eghosa Omoigui‏ @EghosaO Jan 20
          Replying to @emptywheel @thegrugq

          find it interesting that the CI teams from both agencies butted heads on if the leak was humint or sigint & it may turn out it was both.

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        3. the grugq‏ @thegrugq Jan 20
          Replying to @EghosaO @emptywheel

          From the NBC article the PRC CI team only had to inspect one asset’s laptop and from that they’d crack the whole system. If Lee gave up a single asset between 2007-2010 they’d have been able to do that. They wouldn’t need him anymore.

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        4. the grugq‏ @thegrugq Jan 20
          Replying to @thegrugq @EghosaO @emptywheel

          Which would go some way towards explaining why he had such a shitty career path. First being fired from a company because they suspected him of spying for PRC, then working at a private company, then joining Estée Lauder for 2yr, then Christies as physical security.

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        5. the grugq‏ @thegrugq Jan 20
          Replying to @thegrugq @EghosaO @emptywheel

          That’s a pretty rough career for someone with 20years in intel. I mean, a fucking tobacco company figured he was spying for china in the first year he was out of CIA?? The confusing thing is the time duration between events.

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        6. the grugq‏ @thegrugq Jan 20
          Replying to @thegrugq @EghosaO @emptywheel

          PRC are rolling up the JTI investigations as soon as they hear of them, but it takes 3 years before they touch the HUMINT assets? And they don’t seem to be paying him much for this info (he was still working for a living)

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        1. Themistocles' Wall‏ @themistocles_w Jan 20
          Replying to @emptywheel @thegrugq

          I'll say it again Americans suck at spying Skills needed for spying sorely lacking from our national makeup We should just forego wasting $ on it & push transparency & democracy movements w/free PR, tech & money

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