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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 18
      Replying to @emptywheel @Marys_musings and

      And there are a long list of defendants who clearly were but who never got 702 notice, including some for whom the warrant for content was obtained a year into the case.

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 18
      Replying to @emptywheel @Marys_musings and

      Say, can you tell me where you got your belief that FISA is dealt with in the CIPA process?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Mary Carney‏ @Marys_musings Jan 18
      Replying to @emptywheel @qjurecic and

      CIPA is the process by which any FISA info would be handled by the Ct. I just referenced CIPA because if you have seen any FISA info in a trial, it went through that process. I assume you haven't seen any suppression motion-related briefs.

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    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 18
      Replying to @Marys_musings @qjurecic and

      Let me give you some apparently belated advice. Please don't make mistaken assumptions about what I've seen. It's a bad look for you.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Mary Carney‏ @Marys_musings Jan 18
      Replying to @emptywheel @qjurecic and

      I've made no assumptions. I've asked you question and you made declaratory statements in response. You seem to be assuming that I don't know what I am talking about, but that's fine. More snark.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 18
      Replying to @Marys_musings @qjurecic and

      Have you ever used 702 in a case? Bc I've talked to the lawyers who've defended it. And covered those cases, in varying degrees of detail, personally.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Mary Carney‏ @Marys_musings Jan 18
      Replying to @emptywheel @qjurecic and

      I don't discuss classified info. I hope nobody else did. I have been discussing the use rules & cited PCLOB because it's not classified. You referred to things you know (not what they are) & suggested DOJ is lying. That seems wrong to me. But I guess everyone has their thing.

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    8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 18
      Replying to @Marys_musings @qjurecic and

      Looking in PACER, even assuming you're the Mary Carney who has done the terrorism cases, I'm pretty sure the answer is no. Thanks for DOJ-splaining me about what the current standard is.

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 18
      Replying to @emptywheel @Marys_musings and

      And, AGAIN, this is getting tedious. I'm not saying DOJ is lying. I'm saying the standard is NOT that you have to say where a lead came from. That's not lying. That's parallel construction.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    10. Mary Carney‏ @Marys_musings Jan 18
      Replying to @emptywheel @qjurecic and

      I've asked you several times to tell me what the standard is. The tedious thing is that I tried to have a productive discussion & you're playing hide the ball & mocking me. If that's what you enjoy, that's fine. I'm cool w/leaving it at that you are right about everything.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 18
      Replying to @Marys_musings @qjurecic and

      Want to answer whether you've used 702? Or still dodging that?

      5:29 PM - 18 Jan 2018
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