emptywheel

I don't discuss classified info. I hope nobody else did. I have been discussing the use rules & cited PCLOB because it's not classified. You referred to things you know (not what they are) & suggested DOJ is lying. That seems wrong to me. But I guess everyone has their thing.

Looking in PACER, even assuming you're the Mary Carney who has done the terrorism cases, I'm pretty sure the answer is no. Thanks for DOJ-splaining me about what the current standard is.

And, AGAIN, this is getting tedious. I'm not saying DOJ is lying. I'm saying the standard is NOT that you have to say where a lead came from. That's not lying. That's parallel construction.

I've asked you several times to tell me what the standard is. The tedious thing is that I tried to have a productive discussion & you're playing hide the ball & mocking me. If that's what you enjoy, that's fine. I'm cool w/leaving it at that you are right about everything.

The standard as applied, with a few exceptions (Mohamud--you've heard of him, I hope), is that only if the actual intercept content goes into trial is it noticed. Tips off back door searches or chat rooms don't.

3rd time - not discussing cases. As applied means what you believe it to be based on the low number of cases w/notice of which you are aware. But, as previously noted, you are right about everything, so we're good here. I hope you will join me in prayer for Brady's throwing hand.

So you want me to discuss cases (which I have, to which you haven't responded, or acknowledged) but you won't bc doing so would make it clear you HAVE used 702 in a case that wasn't noticed. Fair enough. The current standard is no one is getting notice. Zero.

Cool. I'm actually a stay-at-home mom of 12 and made all this stuff up, so it all worked out. Have a nice night!