"Opponents of Russia, who feed public fears that Russian influence is everywhere, may be working as inadvertent force multipliers of paranoia."http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/01/17/american-democracy-was-asking-for-it/ …
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I wouldn’t say a hoax, quite, in that I suspect that she is sincerely nuts. Tory, yes, obvs. But her fan club, I think, are anti-trumpets pure and simple. What I am trying to get at there is why there is an audience for her - including among people who are ordinarily quite sane.
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Cernovich is funded by Bannon-tangential entities. Where and to what end did Louise arise from?
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Cernovich also rose from Gamergate/MRA-arseholery before he attracted wider attention. My first instinct, perhaps wrong, is to see this as an ecosystem rather than a simple product of manipulation. Entirely apart from big funders, there are ecological niches for nutters/grifters
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I don't think that's right. Louise was still sucking on Murdoch's teat for much of her fandom. So you've got two right wing funders of the hoaxsters.
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The piece was in part motivated by annoyance at the willingness of people whose politics I mostly agree with to assume that Russia is ubiquitous and sinisterly effective in ways I don’t think it is. But I could quite happily envisage a sister-piece that talked to the other side…
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I love the piece!! But it is possible 1) we're incredibly vulnerable bc of shit we -- especially the far right -- has done but 2) the RU attack is more complex than people make out.
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For sure. I think that there are plenty of plausible counterarguments along the lines you suggest (although I also find the Gessen/Ioffe line fairly convincing on Russian perceptions/disorganization). And I could be wrong in specifics or big picture. But what I am trying to do is
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I find Gessen, especially invaluable. But she also emphasizes that Putin cares about shit here that he might not care about in other places.
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