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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Avinash Samarth‏ @AvinashSamarth Jan 16

      What legal or practical protections prevent NSA or FBI or ICE from using #FISA702-collected communications between clients and the attorneys representing them in criminal or immigration court? @emptywheel

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 16
      Replying to @AvinashSamarth

      If both are in the US, they're only likely to be collected if relying on VPN or Tor. If one is overseas, a charged defendant will have a clean team. An immigrant likely won't. Same rules for Title I, roughly, if collection is in US.

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    3. Avinash Samarth‏ @AvinashSamarth Jan 16
      Replying to @emptywheel

      What if the email server (e.g., Gmail?) is overseas? Is there still a clean team? And who ensures the team is clean?

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 16
      Replying to @AvinashSamarth

      Then it might be collected under 12333, not 702. Q would then be how they accessed it. Raw 12333 data has been shared w/IC (and not just CIA, FBI, and NCTC, as 702 is) since 1/3/17.

      5:04 AM - 16 Jan 2018
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        1. Avinash Samarth‏ @AvinashSamarth Jan 16
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Word. Thanks for the analysis and info!

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