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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 14

      Some points on this profile of Ed Baumgartner: It notes that (contrary to Simpson's testimony) Baumgartner was simultaneously billing for Prevezon--probably lobbying support, which is key--and for Dem oppo research. http://www.businessinsider.com/ed-baumgartner-fusion-gps-christopher-steele-russia-projects-2018-1 … Simpson was VERY forgetful abt that.

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    2. Robert Waldmann‏ @robertwaldmann Jan 14
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Reading the transcribed testimony, I thought it was made perfectly clear that Baumbartner was involved in both projects. I have always had a very favorable impression of your reading comprehension and am sincerely shocked.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 14
      Replying to @robertwaldmann

      Please read what I've actually written, then. What Simpson claimed is that the involvement was serial: Prevezon ends in June then DNC starts. Records make it clear Baumgartner was working on both AT SAME TIME.

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    4. Robert Waldmann‏ @robertwaldmann Jan 14
      Replying to @emptywheel

      he said he thought Prevezon "was winding down" clearly stating there was overlap.

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 14
      Replying to @robertwaldmann

      Except it wasn't. It billed all the way through October.

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    6. Robert Waldmann‏ @robertwaldmann Jan 14
      Replying to @emptywheel

      I see so how long can a "wind down" last. I didn't know it was a technical term. I remain shocked.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 14
      Replying to @robertwaldmann

      Simpson also says the project is over when you stop billing. So that's how he decides.

      11:32 AM - 14 Jan 2018
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        2. Robert Waldmann‏ @robertwaldmann Jan 14
          Replying to @emptywheel

          do you agree that "over" and "winding down" are not synomyms ?

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 14
          Replying to @robertwaldmann

          Do you agree that "simultaneous" is neither of those things? Why do you keep misstating what I've said?

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        4. Robert Waldmann‏ @robertwaldmann Jan 14
          Replying to @emptywheel

          "During A, B was winding down" imply they were (in part) simultaneous. You understand English, and know I am not misstating what you tweeted.

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 14
          Replying to @robertwaldmann

          Except that that's not what the public record shows. "A and B were parallel and both wound down at the same exact time."

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        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 14
          Replying to @emptywheel @robertwaldmann

          And the underlying *point* is the important one. Simpson suggested no one except him was working both Prevezon and DNC at same time.

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        7. Robert Waldmann‏ @robertwaldmann Jan 14
          Replying to @emptywheel

          The underlying fact is that Simpson said that two people were working on Prevezon & Trump Russia at the same time and you have chosen to repeatedly libel him.

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        8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 14
          Replying to @robertwaldmann

          Oh. Well then he can sue me but 1) no. 2) his underlying claim is ALSO false. and 3) the underlying point--that at least two Fusion people could have leaked news of dossier--is also true.

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        9. Robert Waldmann‏ @robertwaldmann Jan 14
          Replying to @emptywheel

          I am responding only to your tweets His underlying claim which we contest is tru. He told the truth. You are lying (repeatedly). None of my business if he sues you (also I'm not a lawyer).

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        2. Robert Waldmann‏ @robertwaldmann Jan 14
          Replying to @emptywheel

          The attached tweet (which you actually wrote) is 100% false and damaging. Rather than admitting you made a mistake you are parsing "winding down". You have (or had) a sterling reputation. Don't throw it away.pic.twitter.com/ZpBscQ1LP3

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 14
          Replying to @robertwaldmann

          Great. Then I'll stand by what I say and publish the even more damning post making Simpson's obfuscation more clear if that's what you prefer?

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        4. Robert Waldmann‏ @robertwaldmann Jan 14
          Replying to @emptywheel

          I want you to act as the scrupulous and honest investigator I remember. I don't give a damn about Simpson. I am disappinted in you.

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