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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 14

    emptywheel Retweeted Asha Rangappa

    Wagging the word "target" around does not change fact that 702 is used to obtain access, w/o a warrant, to US person comms, w/o even suspicion of wrong-doing. Moreover, 702 is used to knowingly collect on entirely domestic comms under the 2014 exception.https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_/status/952383097038888960 …

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    Asha RangappaVerified account @AshaRangappa_
    Again, this is not true. Section 702 does *not* authorized ANY US person being targeted, either in the US or abroad. it also prohibits "reverse targeting," which is using 702 to get at a USPER. In addition, the universe of collection by NSA is NOT THE SAME as what the FBI has. https://twitter.com/FaizaPatelBCJ/status/952382549128630273 …
    10:31 AM - 14 Jan 2018
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      2. Glenn Greenwald‏Verified account @ggreenwald Jan 14
        Replying to @emptywheel

        As @JameelJaffer has endlessly pointed out, advocates of 702 not only admitted in 2008 that it would enable large amounts of warantless surveillance of Americans, they admitted that was a *primary* purpose of the law @asharangappa https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jun/19/fisa-court-oversight-process-secrecy …pic.twitter.com/Oo0GnlIcYj

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      3. Joe Ryan‏ @joesryan Jan 14
        Replying to @ggreenwald @emptywheel and

        I really love that you and @emptywheel are continuing to hammer the useful idiots on this issue but I think I've lost hope of it ever changing for the better. We crossed a Rubicon after 9/11 into ubiquitous, constant surveillance of everyone and I can't see how we ever go back.

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      4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 14
        Replying to @joesryan @ggreenwald and

        It IS worthwhile to lay out precisely what people are voting for. The Tor exception, the unreviewable AG authority, the back door searches. When the way those are used to impact select populations, we'll need to know who to blame for knowingly authorizing it all.

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      5. Joe Ryan‏ @joesryan Jan 14
        Replying to @emptywheel @ggreenwald and

        Oh, very true. You'll have to excuse my cynicism, and you're right, any meaningful change only comes when people like you cast a harsh light on what is going on, so I salute all of you for doing at least that. History will judge those who helped the surveillance state harshly.

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      2. Martin Sundhaug‏ @sundhaug92 Jan 14
        Replying to @emptywheel

        It's a bit like saying this: "You weren't my target, I just incidentally shot you while pointing the gun in your general vicinity while targeting someone who may or may not be close to you"

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      3. Martin Sundhaug‏ @sundhaug92 Jan 14
        Replying to @sundhaug92 @emptywheel

        The gap between what 702 is sold as and what it actually used for is wide enough that you could ram the USS Enterprise through it

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      1. sojourner  🌹‏‏ @usofkramerica Jan 14
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      1. Just Mike‏ @blackmoortech Jan 14
        Replying to @emptywheel

        If Asha is correct and nobody would dare use 702 to purposely collect domestic comms of USP then why all the pushback on a warrant requirement?

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