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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 12

      emptywheel Retweeted John Sipher

      Except FBI, whose practices are the ones of greatest concern, is judged on other things. Including: 1) arrests, especially terrorism ones 2) informants recruitedhttps://twitter.com/john_sipher/status/951814369897263104 …

      emptywheel added,

      John SipherVerified account @john_sipher
      Replying to @Robert4787
      While it is always wise to protect against government overreach, I cannot tell you how uninterested intelligence officers are in "collecting" on Americans. Their only mission - the one they are judged on - is collecting foreign intelligence. More red herrings.
      4 replies 5 retweets 23 likes
    2.  🤔Jake Laperruque 😒‏ @JakeLaperruque Jan 12
      Replying to @emptywheel

      This seems to be a basic misunderstanding by @john_sipher that the people doing the collecting are 1) not doing it in a narrow manner and 2) more importantly, are not the only ones with access and ability to use

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. John Sipher‏Verified account @john_sipher Jan 12
      Replying to @JakeLaperruque @emptywheel

      Agree that the possibility of abuse is serious. The question, it seems to me, is how far do we go to protect against something that rarely ever happens. Sensible and strict precautions makes sense but there is a balance between supporting he mission and avoiding abuse. Not easy

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 12
      Replying to @john_sipher @JakeLaperruque

      We don't know whether it happens at FBI bc they've been doing less and less auditing of queries. https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/11/30/hype-how-fbi-decided-searching-702-content-was-the-least-intrusive-means/ … Plus, the Tor exception is relatively new.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 12
      Replying to @emptywheel @john_sipher @JakeLaperruque

      There are at least two cases involving incidental collection on Chinese-Americans -- Xiaoxiang Xi and Keith Gartenlaub and spouse -- that raise serious concerns.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel Jan 12
      Replying to @emptywheel @john_sipher @JakeLaperruque

      Moreover, since DOJ has never complied with notice provision in 702 we don't have a way of tracking the real impact.

      10:56 AM - 12 Jan 2018
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