702 bill the House just passed codifies the government's ability to use 702 to collect DOMESTIC communications from Tor and VPNs and use them for 8 enumerated crimes. https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/10/23/the-senate-intelligence-committee-702-bill-is-a-domestic-spying-bill/ …
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If Congress debated and passed "The Tor Spying Bill of 2018," it'd pass easily. And if they did so, defendants would get notice of that spying. Not so now. They'll never learn about it.
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So effectively, on top of everything else that's wrong with this bill, it codifies the government moving criminal investigations under the jurisdiction of a secret court.
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Technologically speaking, how vulnerable would a VPN like PIA or similar be to FISA? What about encrypted comm like Signal? Since both don't keep logs and are encrypted, does the FBI (or other state actors) have the ability to decrypt the traffic?
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Not sure how they're doing this technically. I think they collecting entrance and exit traffic to Tor, and probably similar for any VPN that isn't cooperating w/USG--but I think they do, in PRISM like fashion.
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My educated guess is that the govt is bypassing Signal encryption, possibly through Apple.
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by capturing the traffic before it gets to the app? It was my understanding that was the only way for the data to be compromised, since they don't keep logs
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When they say they don't keep logs they mean they don't say what you're doing but they do track when you're accessing the site. I suspect under 702 they give more.
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