If true, this @kwelkernbc story that the Mueller team is in talks to interview Trump, is big.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/initial-talks-underway-about-trump-interview-mueller-russia-probe-n835506 …
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Agreement to interview Trump by the Mueller team would undercut Trump's statements that he himself isn't under investigation. Interviewing him, which they haven't done yet, puts him in the cross hairs. 2/
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It also creates clear legal and political jeopardy for the President. Lying to federal investigators would be a crime. Not only a regular one, but as shown in the Clinton impeachment, a high crime. 3/
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Given the President's repeated misstatements of fact, or as some would call them, lies, about things big & small, some of which don't even seem relevant (the size of crowds, buttons, hands...) its unlikely he could stick to the truth through a long interview. 4/
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False statements about his meetings with the Russians in Trump tower, the genesis of Don Jr.'s statement about same, his efforts to fire Comey can themselves be crimes, even if the underlying actions weren't. 5/
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One thing we've learned over time is that Trump can't stick to a consistent story about anything. And another thing we've learned, Mueller has the receipts. He has the emails. He has the phone records. He has the interviews of other participants. 6/
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Inevitably, when Trump does lie to the Mueller investigators, and the Mueller report comes forward detailing the particulars, we will be faced with an uncomfortable political truth, does our political system even care? 7/
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Replying to @MiekeEoyang
You're assuming the only crime here will be lying. Or even will be obstruction.
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Replying to @emptywheel @MiekeEoyang
I will have a thread on this in a day or two when I get out from under a blizzard of work, but see attached -- as Marcy implies, Trump's closeness to criminal conspiracy substance is closer than people understand. from https://www.justice.gov/usam/criminal-resource-manual-965-conspiracy-violate-mail-fraud-or-wire-fraud-statutes … & http://www3.ce9.uscourts.gov/jury-instructions/node/367 …pic.twitter.com/Rm4nruKGie
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Then key Q is what legal status of Trump's actions during transition are. That may be why Mueller is focusing more closely on that than on other tangible actions after January 20. It may also be why discussion of obstruction may be useful distraction for Mueller.
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