I'm not a podcast person, but this one w/@Doranimated & @benjaminwittes is worthwhile.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/lawfare-podcast-through-looking-glass-mike-doran-part-ii …
I disagree with much that both say--I think it's a fair presentation of 2 tribalists ignoring evidence. But doing so civilly.https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/949759041517051904 …
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In arguing Trump+Russian collusion, what issues being brought up to support Duran's arguments: Obama v Romney debate re: Russia as adversary
CLAIM: The left was not outraged
Clinton did not tell all the truth to FBICLAIM: nefarious lies that Michael Flynn told is common!!!
I commented to him that he's artificially focusing on Flynn rather than, say, Kushner. But I think there's a reason Flynn got the plea deal.
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Doran is banking on the idea the whole thing is a political hack job or conspiracy in nature. He claims: Flynn told some isolated nefarious lie which many gov't employees tell incl HRC i.e. unsuspicious. Russia offers dirt to Don Jr; Trump campaign meets kislyak; Manafort has 1/2
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...Russian dark$ ties. Don Jr & Eric on disproportional investment coming from Russia. To Doran, all these pieces are isolated matters. Suspicion is unjustified. 2/2
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I think they are fairly RU efforts. Did Trump take up on them. I THINK they did. But we don't have solid proof yet.
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