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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 26 Dec 2017
      Replying to @jeffhauser

      That's simply bullshit. It has been used in this connotation for years. Stop inventing new facts.

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    2. Jeff Hauser‏Verified account @jeffhauser 26 Dec 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Was the term originated to describe Turkey--yes or no?

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    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 26 Dec 2017
      Replying to @jeffhauser

      Does the term as used by people in this sphere mean current consensus and habits, yes or you just don't care abt what his field has been doing for 15 years?

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    4. Jeff Hauser‏Verified account @jeffhauser 26 Dec 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      This isn't like "what did liberal mean in 18th Century England." Term created relatively recently to describe a specific institution that only died off roughly last year. I don't like this appropriation at any point and the problems with it are metastasizing under Trump.

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 26 Dec 2017

      Yeah my problem is that those who object to use of Deep State are pretending one of the precipitating causes to current state doesn't exist.

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    6. Jeff Hauser‏Verified account @jeffhauser 26 Dec 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      I certainly agree Trump is not (to go Asimov)The Mule -- he's a product of a broken society. And that includes the FBI and everything from Clinton mistakes (too hawkish on Russia) to Clinton victimized in re Benghazi/emails. But we're not Turkey and there's no single Deep State.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 26 Dec 2017

      Yeah. Sorry. There is a permanent policy consensus that sustains itself via secrecy. Which is why I'm really impatient with those who pretend the term hasn't been doing important work for a decade.

      4:44 PM - 26 Dec 2017
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