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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Dec 2017

    Every Trump opponent should be prepared to respond to Andrew McCarthy's argument against Steele dosser. But that will also require coming to grips w/the dossier shortcomings. https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/12/23/in-which-former-natsec-prosecutor-andrew-mccarthy-embraces-russian-disinformation/ …

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      2. Vote 11.06.18‏ @Graceann319 23 Dec 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Nope, the Dossier was I believed used to gather evidence & not used as evidence. I don't see any FISA court allowing a dossier as a ecmvidence. Mueller and Comey I can trust to follow the law and the oath they took. Any claims the Dossier was used evidence I believe are false.

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Dec 2017
        Replying to @Graceann319

        1) read the post where I talk abt parallel construction 2) you appear unfamiliar the kind of shit that ends up in fisa apps

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      4. Vote 11.06.18‏ @Graceann319 23 Dec 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Making assumptions into how the FISA warrant was obtained. Unless anyone was in attendance during the grand juries issuance of said warrant no one should be issuing assumptions.

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      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Dec 2017
        Replying to @Graceann319

        Let's start with something really basic you appear to not know. Fisa warrants don't come fr grand juries.

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      6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Dec 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel @Graceann319

        But as I noted I was pointing to real evidence from someone who has some idea what happened. So go read that.

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      7. Vote 11.06.18‏ @Graceann319 23 Dec 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Vote 11.06.18 Retweeted Asha Rangappa

        https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_/status/944624918917976064 …

        Vote 11.06.18 added,

        Asha RangappaVerified account @AshaRangappa_
        THREAD. I am completely confused as to how the "FBI used the Steele dossier to get FISAs" in any way helps Trump or his campaign. To wit: https://twitter.com/AndrewCMcCarthy/status/944523251417604096 …
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      2. Mike Kyvik‏ @kyvikm 23 Dec 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Naw, cases aren’t being made by the dossier even if it was a catalyst for investigation. Defending it is a waste of time as Mueller will bring court quality evidence, so that’s what we need to protect...and perhaps we should defend Bannon’s recent comment about Jared😉

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Dec 2017
        Replying to @kyvikm

        Fair enough. Those Dems who do spend their time on the dossier need to answer his qs.

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      2. Stirgleton‏ @OuijaForestCat 23 Dec 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Wait, the FBI didn't know early on (or at least strongly suspect) the Steele dossier was oppo research? Aren't they in the business of making educated guesses about stuff? That had to be a pretty easy guess to make.

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Dec 2017
        Replying to @OuijaForestCat

        Not clear. No evidence abt that yet.

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      2. Stirgleton‏ @OuijaForestCat 23 Dec 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        BTW, McCarthy addressed Papa's London "stolen emails" in an Oct. column. They could reference the 30K deleted emails from HRC's homebrew server from her SoS tenure. This is plausible, cuz Papa's plea mentions "emails of Clinton," not DNC/Podesta emails.http://www.nationalreview.com/article/453264/donald-trump-george-papadopoulos-indictment-exculpatory-trump …

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Dec 2017
        Replying to @OuijaForestCat

        Yeah. But he doesn't realize that even if it does it is more damaging.

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      4. Stirgleton‏ @OuijaForestCat 23 Dec 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        How so? As far as we know, IC hasn't done an assessment of Russian hacking of HRC's homebrew server, only the DNC server. If those 30K emails really were purloined, a dude in Hoboken could have done it. Then it would be regular sketchy election dirt, not international espionage.

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      1. please clap‏ @dysFLYmia 23 Dec 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        can't help but appreciate the name 'mccarthy' in indicting the democrats' bloodlust-like conviction in (deeply flawed) steele dossier

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      1. john sundman‏ @jsundmanus 24 Dec 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Thank you. This is the first time I've understood what all the "dossier" brouhaha was about.

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      1. Scott Anderson‏ @TheScotAnderson 23 Dec 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        This is bananas. Why would a Trump opponent discuss Steele dossier with all the ammunition he has given (and much more to come)? Tax plan, racism, war on workers, etc.

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