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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings 20 Dec 2017

      P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡ Retweeted Dustin Volz

      Oh well. Looks like 404(b)(1) extension it is.https://twitter.com/dnvolz/status/943559346427977729 …

      P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡ added,

      Dustin VolzVerified account @dnvolz
      Barring some serious turnaround it looks like the House's 702 bill is dead. Will likely move to a short-term extension -- 30 days being floated as a number
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    2. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings 20 Dec 2017

      The fun question between now and Dec 30 is whether DNI is bold enough to go to FISC and fight for an annual reauth with a full year under 404(b)(1), or just go thru to April.

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    3. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings 20 Dec 2017

      If it were me, I'd err on the side of "a dec 30 auth will hurt more than it helps". But then, maybe I'm a crazy optimist that Congress will manage in the next four months what if failed to so in the last twelve.

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    4. Susan Hennessey‏Verified account @Susan_Hennessey 20 Dec 2017
      Replying to @pwnallthethings

      Quite the optimism indeed. If they miss this deadline, we're into an election year. Why do you think anti-702ers are suddenly so enraptured with the April deadline being the operative one?

      1 reply 3 retweets 13 likes
    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 20 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Susan_Hennessey @pwnallthethings

      Susan: As one I presume you include as being "enraptured," are you familiar with the PAA direct precedent? Or just attacking people who DO know it?

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    6. Susan Hennessey‏Verified account @Susan_Hennessey 20 Dec 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @pwnallthethings

      I actually wasn't referring to you, as you've noted the dual deadline in the past. But my feed is positively overtaken with apparent newcomers to the April deadline, pushing it as a reason this is no big deal.

      2 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 20 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Susan_Hennessey @pwnallthethings

      Virtually everyone knowledgeable I know thinks there'll be short term. But April IS a reason this is no big deal. April, and the PAA precedent.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Susan Hennessey‏Verified account @Susan_Hennessey 20 Dec 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @pwnallthethings

      Short term reauth that gets us past Nov 2018 would be reasonable solution to completely unreasonable mess they've created. Anything that sunsets prior and closer to Nov is just more gamesmanship on a total lapse. Call me a cynic but I presume it's part of the strategy.

      1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 20 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Susan_Hennessey @pwnallthethings

      Who is "they"? The IC, that still hasn't briefed all staffers on what they're doing? The IC which won't even accept HJC, which is mostly lip service to reform?

      1:09 PM - 20 Dec 2017
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        2. Susan Hennessey‏Verified account @Susan_Hennessey 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @pwnallthethings

          "They" is Congress and (moreso) the White House, which has entirely botched the interagency and Hill outreach and let easy compromise opportunities pass for no good reason.

          1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Susan_Hennessey @pwnallthethings

          I"ll grant you the WH. But I actually think HJC engaged in good faith (and a great deal of work, even I don't like outcome). HPSCI refused it bc the IC told them to.

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        4. Susan Hennessey‏Verified account @Susan_Hennessey 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @pwnallthethings

          I agree HJC engaged in good faith. I just think their outcome did a whole lot of harm while offering very little meaningful reform (and take it you agree on at least the latter part).

          1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Susan_Hennessey @pwnallthethings

          Agree on the latter part. Actually think Warner's solution (FISC rubber stamp) better than CRM only warrants, if only bc we'd get a real #. But not w/codification of Tor exception, which IMO should never be/have been permitted w/o debate.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 20 Dec 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @Susan_Hennessey @pwnallthethings

          My real hope is that the 9th rules you need criminal warrant for criminal usage in Gartenlaub, which would force debate on the issue.

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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