Moreover, you CANNOT endorse expansive Insider Threat detection programs without being okay with texts like these being access by an IG. That's the entire point of Insider Threat detection.
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Note: One can sympathize w/Strzok and Page for having their texts released. One can worry abt their due process. But those were NOT "private" texts. They were on FBI issued cells, w/subject lines appropriate to Hillary investigation.https://twitter.com/dandrezner/status/941343363323846656 …
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Do you have a cite for the fact this was on FBI devices? I don't doubt it since presumably that's what the IG requested, but I also haven't seen it actually confirmed anywhere and it's so weird they wouldn't be using personal cells for this kind of thing.
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Horowitz's letter to Grassley and Johnson says they were FBI-issued phones: https://goo.gl/AKURpg
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Thanks, that's the letter I'd seen referenced but couldn't find. So weird to use USG device like this, but maybe related to wanting to conceal communications from a spouse.
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Right. That was Handel's implication. BECAUSE they used Hillary investigation subject lines they believed they'd be classified. Oops.
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I don't think it's possible to text from the high-side/classified enabled devices (just email), but this could apply to thinking they'd be withheld as LE sensitive or similar.
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I think that's it, yeah. Tho does that say Hillary investigation stuff wasn't high side?
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Honestly, I'm so confused not sure what conclusions to draw (also FBI practice with the phones could be different from agencies I'm familiar with). I do think (1) scandal element is pure nonsense and (2) these people showed astoundingly bad judgment.
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Absolutely agree on 2. I'm sympathetic to those who say we can't decide whether there is a scandal until we understand "insurance" comment. And until we see Trump investigation era ones. We don't know yet. Nor does Horowitz or we'd have a report.
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We can't lose sight of the fact that the Trump campaign was in touch with Russia, and two have already been indicted, regardless of the FBI agents.
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Two have pled guilty and two indicted. But Mueller may be proceeding in such a way as to avoid any poison fruit, thus the reliance on plea deals for false statements.
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Which statements do you think are false?
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That's a reference to what the two plea deals were: False Statements was the charge.
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So if they had been sent on diff phones it would be okay to have an opinion then right?
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For CI purposes they'd still be easy for FBI to obtain. Again, these people are subject to Insider Threat monitoring. That's everything. For better and worse.
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Wittes is such a hack. Interesting how much noise Russiagaters are making about these texts as distraction and how little time they spend discussing the actual contents. No idea what "insurance policy" meant; welp time to move on!
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Due process? How much due process does the FBI provide its political targets? Zero.
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As a federal employment lawyer, I disagree. They are still individually-identifiable records under government control. I have had several cases involving the Privacy Act and I assure you they are covered under it. Not sure where you are getting this.
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I know a company issued cell phone is a perk but it’s really not that expensive to buy your own phone and it might save your job one day
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